Part 3: Israeli-Palestinian conflict

[AndHarry]

New thread as part 2 is nearly full.

Part 1 is here.

Part 1 was started when 3 Israeli boys were found murdered.

Part 2 is here.

In part 2 we mainly discussed the legality and human consequences of Operation Protective Edge.

HALFDRUNKCOFFEE - you are right in that we do not have to sign up to the army, though some of us do. You tend to find that Druze and Circassian communities are drafted, depending on if the leader of the community is happy with this.

I live just outside of Jerusalem.

GOSHANNEGORILLA:

No, you are twisting my words.

I simply asked if you only get this angry when it is Gazan children who are tragically dying.

I don't see any thread on this website about what happens in Syria though more died I believe. Unless I'm wrong and have just missed the thread, perhaps.

I laughed hard at the thought of Justin Beiber being Somali! Thanks GAG! For the light comic relief.

I gave up long ago trying to understand and reason with anyone who thinks murdering children because they 'feel' threatened is reasonable. I commend everyone on this thread who is more resilient than me.

Thank goodness most people can see the situation as it is and can see beyond the disgusting and shameful acts of the Israelis. The mass and targeted slaughter of innocent men, women and children. Hundreds of children targeted specifically. Children in schools and playgrounds.

You israeli apologists carry on in your deluded world where your government has fed you half the story.

TheXxed - you think Israeli only 'feel' threatened?

May I ask when you were last there?

80% of us, in Israel, are within range of the Hamas missiles. To reiterate a point from before, even if the missile doesn't hit anyone, the explosion is dangerous because of fires.

People are being injured and killed by the missiles. How would you feel if the town where you lived was constantly having to cope with this?

If you genuinely think that we only 'feel' threatened, and that Hamas is not a genuine threat, then I invite you to Israel, and you can see for yourself.

Have you read the Hamas Charter? They mean it. It isn't mere rhetoric.

REIGNING QUEEN - No children are ever deliberately targets. Why do you not condemn Hamas who openly state they DO aim to kill Israeli innocents, children included? It's clearly fine with you when children in Israel are maimed and killed. Recently a Bedouin baby in Israel was critically injured by a Hamas missile - guess that's fine with you?

But you keep on being an apologist for Hamas. The suicide bombers. The terrorists.

Can I ask you why none of you marches for kids I Syria

Christians being slaughtered in Iraq and beheaded. Bit it's not trendy among mummy coffee mornings is it

I cannot believe that this is allowed to continue. How do israeli's sleep at night. It's beyond belief

Hamas admits using human shields:

CHIPSTICK10:

They don't sleep. They're far too busy rushing into the 'safe' rooms every ten minutes or so, when the sirens sound. They have ten to fifteen seconds to get inside.

I find it really astonishing that, from the safety of your own homes, you condemn those of us who are living with non stop missiles raining down on us.

Nobody wants children to die. Nobody. But Israeli children are ALSO dying. A fact that clearly none of you care about at all.

I spend a lot of time thinking of kids all over the world in danger and worse. I'm anxious about how many kids have been killed in Syria this year. What worries me that we let each new terrible happening wipe out the one before. Are those girls still alive in Nigeria? It's all bad, it's easy to forget another place!

Israelis can't sleep because of the sirens going off. They know that they will weed out the problem. Hamas uses human shields

Here's an article for you to read;
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-the-myth-of-hamass-human-shield-9619810.html

what motivates people to move to occupied land?

Israelis can't sleep because of the sirens going off.

Poor them.

sarah wannabe Can you show some evidence to substantiate this human shields claim?? The UN and Amnesty International were unable to find any evidence to support this propaganda spread by the Israeli government, who according to this have actually admitted using Palestinian children as human shields themselves. The hypocrisy!

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield

The Xxed - I think most of the settlers in the West Bank are very religious although there are some secular people who just wanted cheap housing.

sarah Have you heard of the term whataboutery? Owen Jones says it better than I can.

owenjonesramblings.tumblr.com/post/93010045984/the-whataboutery-of-israels-defenders

Arabs for Israel? Which is actually a vehicle by Nonie Darwish, a name which rings a bell:

www.loonwatch.com/2010/02/nonie-darwish-caught-in-a-pool-of-lies/

Spoiler alert: She's not an Israeli Arab (though she is Egyptian) and she makes a living giving talks for Stand With Us, which is a Zionist Advocacy Group. Her entire schtick is that Muslims and Arabs are barbarous savages.

Hmm. Curiouser and curiouser .

So now I'm a hamas apologist who thinks it's ok that israeli children are dying??
I don't think so.

I am critisising Israel for its slaughter of Palestinians and the destruction of gaza. Even hospitals have been bombed. How appalling and disgusting. Children playing in beaches and waiting for a turn in swings?? I guess you're ok with that because they were obviously human shields in your skewed ill judged opinion.

Thanks GoshAnn. I knew it all sounded suspicious.

I have never heard such a load of rubbish . Israel did not start this war, Hamas started it, not only with years of missile attacks but also with the awful kidnapping and murder recently of three Jewish teenagers. It is not the fault of Israel that the Palestinian Arabs elected a bunch of terrorists (Hamas), an openly genocidal and terrorist group

shirleypalmer are you the last person on the planet to hear that Hamas didn't kidnap those three boys? Sorry to break the news to you but if you're going to pass comment you should check your facts first