Sadly, I think farage was probably right

[MarathonFan]

Romanians next door

I know the right minded middle classes on Mumsnet will think his comments outrageous but among people I know in less affluent areas where this is actually happening (rather than naice white British areas where it's less likely to be a real "problem") it would cause concern.

A few doors from here we have a Lithuanian family (not the same thing at all I know but East Europeans often lumped together). The children go to school with mine and they are a lovely family but among the other neighbours they are viewed very much with suspicion - one calls the police every time they have friends visiting because "they must be up to no good when that many of "them" get together"

So whilst I don't agree with Farage, I hope I'd take any new neighbour as I found them, I do think he's probably right when he says "most" people would be concerned and with some grounds as Romanian gangs are responsible for a lot of crime.

Obviously the man's an idiot and a dangerous one at that but sadly, I think he is talking the same language as a lot of people on the UK and not allowing factual things to be said just strengthens their feeling that white British people are losing all their rights while immigrants are untouchable.

[MrsStatham]

UKIP appear to be doing very well if the early results are correct. Basildon, Hull and Doncaster so far.

[MitziKinsky]

Romanians are the new Irish. Bizarrely my Irish FIL can't see this.

[DogCalledRudis]

I am from Eastern Europe. To be honest, i'm not exactly keen on my compatriots in big crowds. Concerning next doors a family is allright. But if its shared housing i'd be pretty suspicious too. I lived in that sort of thing when i first arrived -- like 4 bedrooms, 3 people to a room. And of course young people love to party... Of course there will be noise and occasional fight.

[LadyWithLapdog]

How is the noise and occasional fight worse because you don't understand the swear words? I lived in a shared house with students. I hated their stomping in the kitchen at 5 am when they came back all high from night clubs. They were white, English etc. I'm not inciting hate against all young, white, middle-class kids. Not even if they're drug users.

[TucsonGirl]

If I was given the choice of living next door to some Romanian men or a German family, and was given no other information whatsoever. I would choose to live next door to the Germans. If that makes me racist, so be it. But I don't believe it does.

[hackmum]

MitziKinsky: "Romanians are the new Irish. Bizarrely my Irish FIL can't see this."

I think that's true. When I was young (1970s) it was quite commonplace for people to talk about Irish people being lazy, stupid, workshy etc. And there was rampant xenophobia against Pakistani people who were supposedly living on benefits, having too many children and eating offensively smelly food. I know a lot of people think that we live in a less racist society now but it seems to me that all that happens is the target of people's vitriol changes - people who wouldn't dream of being rude about the Irish now attack the Romanians.

I also think that "Romanian" is code for "Roma" - people seem to confuse the two. Of course only a small proportion of Romanians are Roma.

[LadyWithLapdog]

Well, TucsonGirl, you then are racist.

[WetAugust]

Tucson

It doesn't make you racist at all.

Some stupid people on here think that Romanians are a race apart, which they are not.

You are merely exercising your personal preference - something the thought police had trouble with

[TitusFlavius]

WetAugust if your personal preference is to demonise an entire nation of people, then you have a problem. Naming this as a problem isn't "thought police", it's fact.

I'd have hated to have you as a neighbour I was a child, having things shouted at me in the street. I bet you miss the 70's.

[WetAugust]

Well that is ironic isn't it as you're intent on demonising a good part of this nation for voting UKIP!

Just shows the fruitcakes are limited to UKIP.

[TitusFlavius]

I don't think you understand how bigotry works, WetAugust. If you judge people badly by what they are - whether that is Romanians, Black people, Jewish people, whatever: that is bigotry.

I'm judging you on your political opinions - what you have chosen to believe. There is a whole qualititive difference between that and choosing to judge people by what they are.

[ohmymimi]

Reading some of the comments from UKIP supporters on here really brings home to me how dangerous and insidious the UKIP project is. It, and its causes, have been seriously underestimated by the 'main' parties. But this is hardly surprising as they are all disgracefully out of touch with the day to day lives of their fellow county women/men.

[Hissy]

My neighbours are Romanians.

They have offered to help in any way they can when my DS gets out of hospital. the bastards

I hate Farage, I hate UKIP, and anyone stupid enough to vote for them.

How dare he say this shit? He is a slug, but those who actually support him are worse, because they are stupid slugs.