Sadly, I think farage was probably right

[MarathonFan]

Romanians next door

I know the right minded middle classes on Mumsnet will think his comments outrageous but among people I know in less affluent areas where this is actually happening (rather than naice white British areas where it's less likely to be a real "problem") it would cause concern.

A few doors from here we have a Lithuanian family (not the same thing at all I know but East Europeans often lumped together). The children go to school with mine and they are a lovely family but among the other neighbours they are viewed very much with suspicion - one calls the police every time they have friends visiting because "they must be up to no good when that many of "them" get together"

So whilst I don't agree with Farage, I hope I'd take any new neighbour as I found them, I do think he's probably right when he says "most" people would be concerned and with some grounds as Romanian gangs are responsible for a lot of crime.

Obviously the man's an idiot and a dangerous one at that but sadly, I think he is talking the same language as a lot of people on the UK and not allowing factual things to be said just strengthens their feeling that white British people are losing all their rights while immigrants are untouchable.

[KissesBreakingWave]

WetAugust, Turkey has been an associate member of the EU since 1963, and was officially recognised as a candidate for full membership in 1999. The full customs union has been in place for some years now, and all the various bits of membership are clicking in to place. Behind schedule, but still moving forward. Hence Farage harping on about the flood of Turks about to immigrate here. Anything to scare, really. He has no honest belief in the bullshit he's peddling.

[SnowinBerlin]

You can call me a lefty feminist and I'm happy. Accuse me of being a cultural Marxist and I'll chuckle. Throw it at me I don't care.

But accuse me of being a Lib Dem and I'll be

[LadyWithLapdog]

Someone else who doesn't want to be amongst the 'liberal democratics of mum's net'. I ask forgiveness for having once voted LD. The other options were even worse.

[DeputyPecksBentBeak]

I've never given a second thought to where any of neighbours are from. Why on earth would I?

[LadyWithLapdog]

We visited the area before buying, just to check out there weren't any unnecessary Union Jacks.

[TooLongInTheBog]

raises hand

I'm forrin', and I must say communism is looking more and more appealing with each of dolina's posts I read.

[DenzelWashington]

What is so odd about all the political convulsions over the EU is that Thatcher heartily disliked and distrusted it, but handled it very well. All subsequent prime minister have liked it less but handled it very badly (except possibly Blair).

I was no fan of old Baroness T, but my goodness she gave good summit. Cameron is a lightweight out of his depth at any EU Heads of Govt meeting, and it really shows. I do wish our politicians would be cannier and more effective in Europe. UKIP, of course, have no intention of even trying to be either. The EU Parliament is a gravy train they will milk of everything they can, happily ineffective, mocked and sidelined with sly winks at their little coalition of the other nasty nationalists, while telling the voters at home they can't wait to get us out of the EU altogether.

[KissesBreakingWave]

If there's one good thing to come out of UKIP, it's the number of new Reds they've created. It's like watching vegans change their minds about pesticides because they're in the middle of a cockroach infestation.

[DenzelWashington]

Loving your work on this thread, Kisses, Costa del Arsehole especially. I've been there, visiting ILs. Sitting listening to all their drunken English friends complain Britain's gone to the dogs because of all the immigrants.

[TheHammaconda]

I did have a good look around our new neighbourhood in Brussels to make sure there were no UKIP or BNP MEPs living nearby. Our Romanian neighbours are fantastic.

[KissesBreakingWave]

Cameron out of his depth at a summit? That spoon-faced knob-walloper is out of his depth in wet fucking socks.

[LadyWithLapdog]

[Icimoi]

I tend to avoid listening to Farage as much as possible, his innate racism and dishonesty is so bad for my blood pressure. However, I heard part of an interview with him the other day where he was so bad it was laughable. The interviewer inconsiderately kept asking him about the local elections and it was blatant how desperate he was to avoid answering - he clearly has no interest in them whatsoever and hasn't bothered to do any homework. She then get on to UKIP policy on maternity and paternity rights and he simply brushed that aside as being in his view only relevant to the national election so he couldn't be expected to confirm or deny their views on this at all. I think we all worked out why he didn't want to answer that one.

The thought that anyone wants this total idiot to represent the UK in the EU Parliament is just mind-boggling.

[DoctorTwo]

spoon-faced knob-walloper Personally, I've never seen a boiled ham that doesn't resemble our beloved democratically elected prime minister.

[DenzelWashington]

I'm not sure Farage is a racist. Xenophobe, certainly, but not necessarily a racist. Though I do think he is perfectly prepaped to hint at being one for electoral advantage. Which is possibly even worse than being one.

[Viviennemary]

If there was any kind of acceptable person to vote for then Nigel Farage wouldn't have much of a chance. But there is Clegg Cameron and Milliband all fighting each other for who is the most irritating. Let's hope somebody half decent comes along soon otherwise voting is a complete waste of time.

[KissesBreakingWave]

AND ANOTHER THING....

Yeah, I'm briefly not busy.

'Cultural Marxism' - you know who coined that phrase? In the original german it was Kulturbolschewismus - literally, Cultural Bolshevism. Favoured of Joseph Goebbels.

I'd have some fucking respect for rightards if they'd come right out and be openly neonazi, but no, it's all buzzwords and dogwhistling and 'genuine concerns'. Where's your street-fighting, UKIP and BNP? Where're your brownshirts? Or is the lesson of Cable Street still a thing with you?

[LadyWithLapdog]

[applause]]

[AgaPanthers]

Ah, Godwin's Law.

The Nazis talked about Cultural Bolshevism.

That's quite close to Cultural Marxism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism (But it isn't.)

Ergo anyone who talks about Cultural Marxism must be a Nazi.

FFS

[SnowinBerlin]

Ergo anyone who talks about Cultural Marxism must be a Nazi.

Not necessarily Nazi but certainly playing with anti-semitic tropes.

[AgaPanthers]

I call Bullshit Bingo.

And everything fully referenced to Wikipedia pages liberally daubed with 'This page is a lot of crap' tags.

Fab.