Police Officer killed during arrest

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Another officer seriously injured

news.sky.com/story/986584/policewoman-killed-during-attempted-arrest

Just turned on the news to see what Andrew Mitchell has said to a serving police....the real opinion of a true Tory about the police. He needs to resign NOW!

I'd like to know quite how Andrew Mitchell thinks 'Knowing your place' (as if that still existed) is compatible with effective policing.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9558125/David-Cameron-Andrew-Mitchell-was-wrong-to-shout-at-police.html He's an arse.

Yeah..it's that term "know your place" which really pissed me off....who the hell does he think he is? And the use of the term "plebs" was just unforgivable in my opinion. In a week when two serving officers have been so horrifically murdered and the Govt have been singing the praises and speaking of "appreciation" of police officers they need to put their money where their mouth is and hoof this idiot to kingdom come.

Just been up to Ashworth La on way home to lay flowers.
Tried to read all of the floral memorials, but it's difficult when you have to keep wiping your eyes. The personal messages hit you like a truck. I got about half way through.

If you live within travelling distance of there, go along? There is a newly open 24 hour supermarket near by so you can get some flowers if you so wish. Will return over weekend with dd. She will learn from it.

Mitchell/Cameron/May are total arses.

"I doubt many people would shed a tear if heaven forbid some unfortunate accident happened"

Well, people should, it is incredibly important that justice be done and be seen to be done. And impeccably.

Don't sink to the level of the bad guys.

Pan, thank you for doing that.
The support from the public reminds us why we joined in the first place.

Seeker, I totally agree.
To sink to their level means the bad guys have won.

I would shed a tear, but for the cop turned bad who would have brought shame on the justice system

S'okay Sharon. Going back with dd at 12 noon on Sunday. She is 12 yo and is mesmorised by the media focus. Seeing the tributes will be a balance.

Ashworth La. is poignant and a bit eerie at the moment. The service on Sunday and the vigil should provide a focus for grief.

Yes, when the cops behave as badly as the thugs then we have anarchy, and nobody is safe.

PanofOlympus Fri 21-Sep-12 21:52:15
S'okay Sharon. Going back with dd at 12 noon on Sunday. She is 12 yo and is mesmorised by the media focus.

Thats good. Will you be taking a picnic? Sorry, but words really do fail me.

I'll ignore all of that. Take your bitterness elsewhere, thanks.

PanofOlympus

Look, if your taking your daughter out of morbid curiousity then please have the guts to admit it. Family, colleagues I can understand, but why would anyone else wish to make a family excursion out of it?

For those of us who are living this right now we have taken our children to help them process what they are seeing in their daily lives and in the news, newspapers and hearing on the radio.

My sons school was locked down on Tuesday FFs and he wants to understand why. He heard the helicopters all day Tuesday, he has said prayers for the murdered officers that's why I've taken him to see the flowers and hep lay ours.

Pan lives and works in the area and is showing respect IMO

not in m'ter but have discussed with dc. and I'm moved

we have v close police friends,this has provoked why questions
I work with police professionally,and have v good polce friends personally.I value and respect their hard job,even more at times like this. tbh if pan takes his daughter then that IMO is a v decent thing. and it's difficult to address harrowing stuff with dc,but necessary

Fair enough. What next, burger bar maybe?

ok,what are you aggrieved about
what's on your mind
manic

Manic what's your point?

Pan has already posted about how he has been involved in the regenerationin the area.
He is showing respect to fallen officers and explaining to his daughter.
Fine with me

scottishmummy

Ok, its the old 'Diana' mania, isn't it? What happened to those police women was terrible. However, I did not know them. Theres condolence sites set up. Why would anyone want to drag their daughters / sons along if they didn't actually know them. Morbid curiousity, thats all.

thanks, Oscar and Sharon and sm - I was ignoring manic's stuff. At 12 it's oddly 'glamorous' and exciting - until you witness the grief that's attached to it.

thanks for reply
but if one is respectful and explains the difficult circumstance of fatalities
IMO,that's responsible,and not overly intrusive.no it's not a rubbernecking fest

Manic did you actually read what I have written! This is real it has affected MY community. I live in Mottram. I have to drive ashworth lane most everyday of my life my children are with most if the time.

Put yourself in our shoes.

manic 12.22 is my reply to you
are you concerned about mawkish behaviors?

Oscar knows about this stuff because she actually lives there. Sharon knows this stuff because she is a serving GMP officer. sm knows this stuff because she talks with friends/colleagues about the ramifications. I know this stuff because I was a GMP officer, live 2 miles away and had worked for 7 years on Hattersley and Mottram until last year, and have visited the site tonight.
We all know this stuff because we are also parents.

manic - for me, I have tried to ignore you, because you don't know this stuff. Clearly.