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Police Officer killed during arrest

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AGoldenOrange · 18/09/2012 12:38

Sad

Another officer seriously injured

news.sky.com/story/986584/policewoman-killed-during-attempted-arrest

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scurryfunge · 18/09/2012 23:55

Suburbophobe - those killed would have been killed whether armed or not. You can't always plan for someone intent on killing regardless.

ThatVikRinA22 · 19/09/2012 00:06

also home safe and sound having just finished my late shift - no meal break though and im knackered.

ive not yet read any news but i suspected he did this for the status it would give him in prison. taking out a few of the 'enemy' will give him status. and he had nothing to lose

fwiw, every week, i and my colleagues go to incidents where firearms are mentioned, and every week, our 'force incident manager assess the risk from his nice chair in the office and sends us to "assess in the first instance".....this could have been any single one of us serving officers today. it could be us tomorrow. i hope the policy of sending unarmed officers to reported firearms incidents will now change. i went to a very similar incident last week - gun shots reported - FIM assessed and let 2 unarmed and single crewed cars go to "asses"

this has to stop. The FIM isnt the one on the end of a potential gun.

ThatVikRinA22 · 19/09/2012 00:22

oh just seen it was reports of burglary.....Sad i thought they were responding to sounds of gun shots.

i cant see how anyone could safeguard against what happened - we respond to reports of burglary every day. You never think you are going to get shot doing it.

they only had a bit more service in than me.....pause for thought there, and they were so young.

so sad

Narked · 19/09/2012 00:32

Is it not possible that someone was trying to show the police to where the man was hiding by giving a false crime report? Is it definite that they were lured there to be attacked? It's vile beyond belief.

scurryfunge · 19/09/2012 00:39

Narked, who knows what the motivation for the call was.

BustersOfDoom · 19/09/2012 00:39

Hello Viggle I thank you for it. I really do. You do a job I couldn't do. And I'll never forget seeing that flag at half mast. Thanks for being there for us xx

Narked · 19/09/2012 00:58

If that really was premeditated it's the kind of thing that I could support a death penalty for. To deliberately kill police officers is an attack on society as well as the murder of innocent human beings. If that isn't addressed then the whole system falls down and no-one is safe.

ThatVikRinA22 · 19/09/2012 01:00

ive signed the book of condolence. may they both rest in peace and i wish their family, friends and colleagues the strength to get through the coming weeks and months.

(have to say i am wondering what pic of me my lot have got of me for such events....hope it wasnt a bad hair day....)

Tiredtrout · 19/09/2012 04:51

It's terrible news, I'm so sorry for the rest of their shift along with their friends and family. It doesn't sound like them being armed or not would have made any difference.

Both of the officers looked so young it's just a waste.

He seems a very cowardly man to have done this

ColouringIn · 19/09/2012 06:29

I signed the book of condolence too...am glad that has been set up and I hope it gives their families some comfort in the future.

I am so grateful to our police officers in this country and so sad about yesterday. It makes all the crap about pensions and employment benefits even more pertinent now. Why should these men and women have their employment benefits slashed when they are going out to such danger. Let's be honest, it could have been anyone on shift at that station yesterday.

Will the public get behind the police now in their fight to secure their pensions. Sadly I fear the response will be "not bloody likely".

All I hope for Cregan is that he comes to know the enormity of what he has done and then lives with the horror of it in his heart and mind. There would be o better consequence because how could you love with yourself knowing you had done such a terrible thing.

SunWukong · 19/09/2012 10:07

I hope this doesn't lead to some stupid knee jerking, shit happens. You can't change that, no amount of tazers, guns etc can account for the fact that every so often shit happens that no one was expecting.

MissMogwi · 19/09/2012 10:15

I hardly think 'shit happens' is an appropriate response.

I live in the Tameside area, and do not want any knee jerk reactions to this.

However, it is an appalling crime, committed by a despicable thug, and people are rightly horrified and understandably questioning the system.

TunaPastaBake · 19/09/2012 10:23

'Shit happens ' Hmm

Good one SuWuKong - I bet that will give the officers families some comfort - 'ah well shit happens - anyone for a cup of tea' tosser

DreamsTurnToGoldDust · 19/09/2012 10:38

I really dont think many if any police leave their homes in the morning not expecting to return. It is absolutely horrific what has happened to the police officers and their families have my total and utter sympathy. But I dont think the police should be armed and I dont think many police want to be either.

Shit happens what a moronic statement.

SunWukong · 19/09/2012 10:53

Not moronic, just the truth, same applies to all, if you drive alot you may be involved in a accident because shit happens, if you join the army you may get killed because shit happens.

Same applies for the police, and what they expect when they walk out the door depends on the area they work in.

TunaPastaBake · 19/09/2012 10:56

SunWuKong - JUST STOP ! Angry

Alot of police officers , ex officers (including myself) and officers families on this thread.

Someone getting killed in line of duty whatever their job is not ' Shit happening'

SunWukong · 19/09/2012 10:59

Why isn't it?

Random attack by someone who targets authority figures, sure sounds like it to me.

TunaPastaBake · 19/09/2012 11:00
Biscuit
JodieHarsh · 19/09/2012 11:03

Sunwukong you are an ignorant fucking offensive cunt. Cunt off elsewhere. Ta.

TunaPastaBake · 19/09/2012 11:05

Here here Jodie !

LadyBeagleEyes · 19/09/2012 11:07

Yes Jodie.
Sunwukong, Fuck Off.
You are offensive.

SunWukong · 19/09/2012 11:09

So you are saying he knew those two where coming and it wasn't a random attack on them?.

Whatever. Random shit happens and the police should no go mad over it, if they armed them all deaths would become regular.

niceguy2 · 19/09/2012 11:11

I wanted to leave a message of condolence. But what can I say? It all seems so tragic. It really has made me sad this.

Sunwukong, great philosophy in life. Let's hope the next time you are a victim of a crime the police officer you report it to doesn't shrug their shoulder and say 'shit happens' eh?

scurryfunge · 19/09/2012 11:13

Sunwukong- it's not random shit. Someone made a deliberate decision to murder.

niceguy2 · 19/09/2012 11:13

Of course it wasn't bloody random. 'Someone' called in a fake burglary to a house which was vacant. Even if that wasn't him, do you seriously think he just happened to be mooching around the abandoned house with a loaded gun and grenade and fired them all at the police because he was 'surprised' by them?

Idiot.