Police Officer killed during arrest

[AGoldenOrange]

Another officer seriously injured

news.sky.com/story/986584/policewoman-killed-during-attempted-arrest

[vigglewiggle]

Should be asleep after a night shift, but I can't sleep and I feel like I should be there in spirit if not in body. Feeling so sad but also proud watching the tributes to this young woman.

[OscarPistoriusGirlfriend]

There's another vigil at 7, so I'm going to try and get to that one. I'm in University in the morning. I saw them covering the flowers yesterday.

[SharonGless]

They have removed the cards to keep for the families so they didn't get soggy in the rain
I'm going tomorrow - we are doing a march back to the police station to bring them home as it were.

[PanofOlympus]

ah thanks Sharon - was up there yesterday lunch time with dd, and will be working tomorrow. Just been past on way home and the flowers have been covered with some plastic to keep the liquid sunshine off them.

[SharonGless]

Pan. Oscar
The vigil is tomorrow at 10.45 with minute silence at 10.58. Family, friends, colleagues and members of public welcome

[SharonGless]

Vw-stay safe

[vigglewiggle]

Thank you SM and TW- just up for my early shift and as I head off to work it is important to know that people care about the deaths of my colleagues. I think it is also important for the local community that they demonstrate that the vast majority are caring and pro-police and did not support or assist this murdering b*tard. I'm sure I would want my children to take part in that process if it had happened in my neighbourhood. Blankets of flowers is just how we do it these days.

[scottishmummy]

certain jobs never get the recognition they're due
predominately public sector
just think,imagine hearing seeing things most folks would think no fuckin way,boak and run from.then go do that,and try fit in school pick,do I have enough milk or pick up way home,did I submit that document,make headspace forcself, family but process what you have seen done. look no one in these jobs expects plaudits,but at dark times when it's dreadful an acknowledgment of distress...well that would be helpful

[Thumbwitch]

Manic - I don't think that you can compare the two. There was only one Diana, and while she did a good job of what she did, she wasn't gunned down in active service.
These two policewomen aren't just people, they are representative of all serving police officers in the country (world, even) who were doing their job when they were shot. This affects many many more people, not just because of the loss of their lives but because of the "there but for the grace of God" feeling. Family members, friends, officers that are well known in the community - there are very few people in the country who wouldn't have some kind of attachment to a police officer, I would think.

I think it is perfectly reasonable for people to come and pay respects to them. And for their families to realise that people are truly shocked and saddened by what can happen to police officers doing their daily job. So no, it isn't mawkish in the same way that the whole Diana thing was.

[PanofOlympus]

Well, you were offensive, but yes lets let it go.

Hopefully this thread will last for a few days yet, until the service and vigil have passed at least.

[Manicmaria]

I think its best if I do not comment any further. It was not my intention to offend anyone. However, I remain resolute in what I have said.

[PanofOlympus]

Oscar knows about this stuff because she actually lives there. Sharon knows this stuff because she is a serving GMP officer. sm knows this stuff because she talks with friends/colleagues about the ramifications. I know this stuff because I was a GMP officer, live 2 miles away and had worked for 7 years on Hattersley and Mottram until last year, and have visited the site tonight.
We all know this stuff because we are also parents.

manic - for me, I have tried to ignore you, because you don't know this stuff. Clearly.

[scottishmummy]

manic 12.22 is my reply to you
are you concerned about mawkish behaviors?

[OscarPistoriusGirlfriend]

Manic did you actually read what I have written! This is real it has affected MY community. I live in Mottram. I have to drive ashworth lane most everyday of my life my children are with most if the time.

Put yourself in our shoes.

[scottishmummy]

thanks for reply
but if one is respectful and explains the difficult circumstance of fatalities
IMO,that's responsible,and not overly intrusive.no it's not a rubbernecking fest

[PanofOlympus]

thanks, Oscar and Sharon and sm - I was ignoring manic's stuff. At 12 it's oddly 'glamorous' and exciting - until you witness the grief that's attached to it.

[Manicmaria]

scottishmummy

Ok, its the old 'Diana' mania, isn't it? What happened to those police women was terrible. However, I did not know them. Theres condolence sites set up. Why would anyone want to drag their daughters / sons along if they didn't actually know them. Morbid curiousity, thats all.

[SharonGless]

Pan has already posted about how he has been involved in the regenerationin the area.
He is showing respect to fallen officers and explaining to his daughter.
Fine with me

[OscarPistoriusGirlfriend]

Manic what's your point?

[scottishmummy]

ok,what are you aggrieved about
what's on your mind
manic

[Manicmaria]

Fair enough. What next, burger bar maybe?

[scottishmummy]

not in m'ter but have discussed with dc. and I'm moved

we have v close police friends,this has provoked why questions
I work with police professionally,and have v good polce friends personally.I value and respect their hard job,even more at times like this. tbh if pan takes his daughter then that IMO is a v decent thing. and it's difficult to address harrowing stuff with dc,but necessary

[SharonGless]

Pan lives and works in the area and is showing respect IMO

[OscarPistoriusGirlfriend]

For those of us who are living this right now we have taken our children to help them process what they are seeing in their daily lives and in the news, newspapers and hearing on the radio.

My sons school was locked down on Tuesday FFs and he wants to understand why. He heard the helicopters all day Tuesday, he has said prayers for the murdered officers that's why I've taken him to see the flowers and hep lay ours.

[Manicmaria]

PanofOlympus

Look, if your taking your daughter out of morbid curiousity then please have the guts to admit it. Family, colleagues I can understand, but why would anyone else wish to make a family excursion out of it?