Police Officer killed during arrest

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Another officer seriously injured

news.sky.com/story/986584/policewoman-killed-during-attempted-arrest

Sharon - they've just mentioned it on the 10 O'clock news! I will certainly be putting my name forward.

I see 'IT' has been charged.

It honestly means so much. We have just had collection buckets brought round at work - donations going through the roof. Practical help is what's need.
Just wish they would double crew all officers for next few nights so they feel a little safer

I was wondering if a good way of showing support would be for everyone to write to their MPs and sign online petitions asking for the police budget and numbers cuts to be reversed.

It would be brilliant if decisions on budgets could be reversed. There also needs to be a culture change within the cops and get more people back onto the response teams

fwiw, the Manchester Evening News published a wildly inaccurate and damning article about the community of Hattersley/Mottram 'hiding' Cregan.

For the record, nothing of the sort took place. It implied that the people living in that community were 'anti-police'. Nothing could be further from the truth. I've worked in and around Hattersley for years. I see from Oscar's fb link that residents have challenged the MEN's account,and good for them. MEN just thought it would sell papers, on the back of the killings. Bastards.

Unbelievable.

When ACC Shewan has been talking tonight about rebuilding the community after the murders.

Words fail me

Sharon - he was talking about Droylesden/Clayton/other suburbs in East and North Manchester ( and he was right) which are scarred by the 10 yr old 'fued' which has been medieval and barbaric at times. Without saying too much on-line, Hattersley was where it was acted out.

Oh I know, apologies head not really with it still.
The media have a lot to answer for.

'acted out' - I mean ended. The vigil next Monday will probably show the quality of difference in the neighbourhoods. The families of the police officers shouldn't believe they were gunned down by members of an anti-police community.

I don't think they will tbh.
However there are
There are lots of rumors doing the rounds as cops have families who live in Hattersley, which the MEN article is feeding

Hattersley was an 'overspill' estate for M/c City Council - miles from the City - which suffered the usual problems in the 1980s/1990s - poor infrastructure, poor employment, drugs. It was awful. But in recent years it has revived, lots of investment and activity, and a serious drop in crime-related issues. I'd buy a house on Hattersley/Mottram easily now with little worry. A friend lives in Abbey Gdns and heard the events, but saw nothing.

I guess I am trying to say that Cregan was not a Hattersley/Mottram man - circs led him there. And that community should not be blighted by the association. IYSWIM.

PanofOlympus

A friend lives in Abbey Gdns and heard the events, but saw nothing.

Oh dear. Her / him and a load of others. Thats the problem, is it not?

Not sure what you mean there Manic?? I mean she heard the shots and the explosion. It's a small cul-de-sac.

The MEN have done an absolute hatchet job. Bastards. I'm not on the estate but am in Mottram, my mum worked at a school on the estate for donkeys there are some bad people granted, but he vast majority are decent, law abiding, good people who happen to live somewhere notorious.

The vigil, which I hope is covered by the press, will show that fundamentally this is a good area and none of us have asked for this to be brought here.

I took some flowers tonight and it's devastating to actually tangibly realise exactly what's happened. I'm sad and furious in equal measure. Hattersley is going through massive regeneration and finally shaking off the stigma if it's past and now this happens!

Oscar - I am at the other end of Mottram Moor, but can say I played a part in the 're-design' and investment. And yes there is/was a dreadful legacy and history which others still associate with the area.

thanks basset from me aswell....and the other thread didnt offend me at all

there has been a serious shooting incident where i work tonight where the hell are people getting guns from? im really shocked - you dont get much quieter than where i am usually.

I am still thinking of these two women and their families, friends and colleagues..

I am glad that Cregan has been charged.....hope he will plead guilty in court.

For all the police officers on this thread....stay safe, I cannot put into words how much you are appreciated by the majority of the public so Thank You for being there for us.

I'm going to lay some flowers in Mottram today

Vicar glad you're ok xx

There's a service of reflection on the week's events in Mottram Church at 4 pm this Sunday, in case any locals here are interested (open to all faiths and none)

Thanks Bird, we will try and attend. DS1 is off on camp this weekend and due back about 4 on sunday.

I went into Manchester yesterday. Saw a couple of PC's walking through the centre and 4 people went up them and shook their hands. I was a bit far away but can only think it was people sympathising with them. A nice touch I thought.

Just seen on the news the heavy police presence bringing Cregan to court. Have to admire the police for the restraint and professionalism being shown. I doubt many people would shed a tear if heaven forbid some unfortunate accident happened.

I doubt many people would shed a tear if heaven forbid some unfortunate accident happened

It is very very important that no such accident happens. That's how you sort things out in Cregan's world, and I don't want to live in Cregan's world. I want to live in a world with stability and the rule of law.

There's no doubt all will be done exactly by the book. Breathless with rage maybe, but the faultless convictions are far more important.