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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 19:50

Here is a question.

Muslims says that the prophet cannot be protrayed and that for anyone to do so is a basphamy. But how can you blaspheme something you don't belive in?

As I understand it orthodox Jews say that it is a blasphamy for someone to write out the word of god. They would write G*d. Does this mean that Jews have the right to demand that Muslims stop writing the word Allah (since Muslims worship the same god as Christians and Jews)

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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 20:35

when did I ever insult you?

And for me the prophet isn't the prophet. You think he is, I don;t. Well there you go. You can't demand that I follow the teachings of your religion.

Out of taste I wouldn't insult you, but you cannot demand that I follow your religions teachings on pictures of the prophet. Not in the UK you can't, anyway

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morningpaper · 06/02/2006 20:35

Burning offices is what extremists do, not what normal Muslims do. No one is arguing that is an inappropriate response. But the point is, does a free press have a right to publish anti-semitic cartoons?

ScummyMummy · 06/02/2006 20:35

I think the Danish embassy in Beiruit was burned down?

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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 20:36

and the Austrain one was attacked in Iran I thin. and a US base in Afghanistan

This isn't about the cartoons. It is attack the west time

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morningpaper · 06/02/2006 20:37

That's right because there are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and they are ALL out to attack the West. Better lock your front door, mate.

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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 20:37

MP, what you couldn't do is publish an ati semitic cartoon that, say exhorted people to go out and kill the jews. That would be an incitement to racial violence.

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singednotburned · 06/02/2006 20:37

Fine, Mb, you believe in what yuo believe in, I have my own beliefs. I never said that yuo can't have your own beliefs

morningpaper · 06/02/2006 20:37
singednotburned · 06/02/2006 20:38

Aghanistan is at war.....didn't you know?

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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 20:38

Oh ffs, did I say all the muslims? Read the posts I have made over and over and don't be silly!

If I had a fiver for every time I sai don't all muslims etc etc. I would have to go to work tomorrow.

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singednotburned · 06/02/2006 20:40

No, newspapers should not publish cartoons that are insulting to anyone, at all.

Caligula · 06/02/2006 20:40

mp my view would be that it would have no right to publish anti-semitic cartoons that incite its readers to attack or harm Jews.

But you would have to define anti-semitic. For many, any criticism of the state of Israel is automatically considered anti-semitic. I happen to disagree.

poppadum · 06/02/2006 20:40

martianbishop,

can i join your religion? It seems so much fun! all hail the blessed sheep!

singednotburned · 06/02/2006 20:40

Who are yuo talking to martian bishop?

ScummyMummy · 06/02/2006 20:41

I think a cartoon of Moses or Abraham or other Jewish icon would be ok.

Caligula · 06/02/2006 20:41

Um, singednotburned, in that case you've put every cartoonist in Docklands on the dole. Political cartoons are nearly all about insulting people.

singednotburned · 06/02/2006 20:41

But I eat sheep!So if yu have some spare, can I eat them, please, you can eat all my pigs if you want!

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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 20:42

SNB, but by insisting thet noneone can protray the prophent you are, in effect, insisting that we all adhere to a prohibition that hold for those who belive, ie the muslims. What else can this mean?

While I would agree that the cartoons were tactless, and personaly I would not have drawn them you have no right to insista that I never draw te prophet. to me his isn't the leader of my faith.

What next? Because some muslims want to wear hejab, I have to as well? that would be silly. I can't expect you to renounce your faith, you can't demand I follow the teachings of yours

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singednotburned · 06/02/2006 20:42

well cartoonists shuold get real jobs.

poppadum · 06/02/2006 20:42

who defines insulting, snb? you, me, or the sheep? a very slippery slope.

I see images of my Hindu deities on tshirts every other day. Do I get to say "death to the manufacturers!"

Caligula · 06/02/2006 20:43

I like Steve Bell. It would be awful if he got a real job.

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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 20:43

oh and my exasparated post was to MP

who was deliberaly infalaming my post, when she knows damn fine I have never lunped all muslims together.

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Blandmum · 06/02/2006 20:43

oh and my exasparated post was to MP

who was deliberaly infalaming my post, when she knows damn fine I have never lunped all muslims together.

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singednotburned · 06/02/2006 20:43

no, there is a difference between saying I don't want my beliefs and religion insulted and my prophet humiliated, and saying you have to believe as I believe.
I don't see your point.

poppadum · 06/02/2006 20:43

oh, so no cartoons under Singed's new regime.

what next, no films either? Life here is going to be so much fun.

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