Yes some gypsies stole some puppies, Loads of people steal things round my way, smoke drugs and smash the community to bits. It does not mean every body who lives on a council estate throught the whole of the uk is like that. They are uneducated and IMO protrayed in the media as scum of the earth.
Saying to a traveller live in bricks and mortar is like saying to another religion you can only worship in the CEO. It wont happen. If the muslim community didnt get planning permission for mosques do you think they would have just quietly done without.
They have fought for years and will keep on fighting to keep their way of life which is steeped in history. For that i applaud them.
They should have removed them 10 years ago when they knew the site was illegal. The land was purchased and they own it. It cant be put back to greenbelt due to whats been on it. Some of the hard standings are also legal and cannot be removed.
So basically the council have spent 18m to remove the gypsies from their land which they cant do anything with. The council wont be able to get planning nor will a private developer. The gypsies will still own the land
The kids will be uneducated for the next 10 years whilst they try and get by. The council will have now have a huge lack of funding.
Does no one think maybe, just maybe a fraction of the 18m could have been spent educating the kids and providing a proper site where they could at least get council tax back.
Its ok though, just chuck the illiterate thieves off the land and let the whole sorry affair start again with another generation of the same.
By the way haggy, i used that example to try and say that saying gypsies are all illiterate thieves is like saying all muslims condone marrying their 12 year old daughters off to men. Not in the context you used. Maybe i should have posted it better
On the subject of the evictions, can I ask a question to those opposed to them. If you take away the terms 'traveller', 'gypsy' etc and replace them with 'people' are your arguments still valid? For example: if '100 people' have set up camp without planning permission and are refusing to leave etc. You may say they have special circumstances because they are a minority group but there are literally thousands of minority groups in this country who are not afforded the same advantage.
Thousands of minority groups in this country dont want to live on illegal campsites with the threat of eviction and inadequate facilities. They are happy with the help they recieve and are happy to live in bricks and motar which is provided. They are happy to send their kids to school knowing they wont be racially abused. Im sure if it appealed to people they would do it.
They cant live on sites such as haven and park resorts as we can. Most of these places have strict no gypsy policies. They dont have strictly no jewish, muslim, polish or council estaters. Only no Gypsys.
Anyway ladies, its starting to turn into a bit of a bunfight. There have been racist comments posted with regards to the travellers and when people have pointed them out they have been removed.
Im sorry people think i am coming across as racist, im not by the way. I have tried to use these sections of community as examples.
Sorry for the long post