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Why women deserve less - how are these books allowed?

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123ROLO · 18/02/2023 16:44

I got an add on YouTube for this book

www.amazon.com/Women-Deserve-Less-Myron-Gaines/dp/B0BVDSBZYK

Listed as a no1 best seller. I think its found its way into not being hatespeech by a loophole of having a disclaimer saying "we are not telling you to hate women". But then goes on to list reasons to hate women.

What sad sad fragile men. I take some comfort that these mens lives must be so deeply unfulfilled if they feel the need to fill their minds with such hatred.

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123ROLO · 12/03/2023 10:26

RealMen · 12/03/2023 06:47

Isn't this the same as today's feminism??
The reason you can't feel sympathy for weak men is beacuse weak men aren't people you innately respect or feel pity for
The book just tells men to work out, stop simping, get good money, build confidence to interact with women, deal with rejection and more positive message
Why do you hate this unless your money directly is going to be affected cuz you have simps on you
Feminism work in our favor for it create men to not even care about their partner while you lie and cry yourself to sleep at the fact your not someone men would accept or love or even want to spend time on
Y'all became useless, bitter, old and desperate
Misery loves company. And you can't bring men down with you so you bring women to your level
Fool them to think what you said is right and destroy the youth innocence and virtue that you lost
Sickening

Why did you message me privately to stop telling feminism lies, where have I lied ?

You have selected some positive messages from his book, but that isn't the basis of it. I've seen them advertising it. They were sniggering with how they managed to get the book into 'feminism theory', calling women various degrading names, the intent behind it is cruel and degrading to women. As that is Myrons whole personality to be cruel and degrading. Just because it tells you to "work out" doesn't detract from the overall lesson which is to treat women as less than you.
Because, he has literally stated he sees women as less than, who have nothing else to offer than sex and giving birth.

Feminism has very much worked in women's favour, its enabled women's choices, autonomy of our body, ability to build careers, have our own finances and to build a life suited to us. If as you said that leads to men not wanting to care about their partner, that's also in our favour as it means we can weed out the pathetic low life's...and really, if a man doesn't want to care/respect a woman because she's not dependent on him, doesn't that say more about the man in this scenario ? Yet you are somehow trying to paint it has the women's issue. Basically he can't control her enough so therefore he doesn't care, see the issue?

I'm a feminist, my mother is a feminist, my friends are, my colleagues are. The men in my life are feminists too, they don't go around chanting or quoting feminism literature, but it is evident by their actions.

We all have very happy, secure and loving relationships, we don't adhere to the toxic messages that men have to be strong and the problem solvers all the time, we are just enjoying living our lives, supporting each other in decisions and living life's to suit us as couples. That is feminism, and it works, I have 0 resentment or anger at men, the men in my life have 0 resentment or anger towards women, but it seems the men who follow the manosphere have plenty of anger and resentment towards women, so seems like it's the manosphere that's the issue, not the women.

The only 'men' I hate are the types like fit and fresh, tate etc, but I don't class them as men, just frustrated little boys trying and failing to be men.

If you follow the likes of myron, your relationships will never be based on genuine love, care and personality, it will be based on how much you can control a women.

Modern dating isn't that hard, it's just the types like myron and the manosphere give really bad advice. If you have to read a book to tell you why you are bad with women, then you are too far gone.

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fluffylampbear · 12/03/2023 10:48

@123ROLO I suspect strongly that @RealMen is the author, as are most of the other similar posts from other usernames he is changing to.

Obviously has nothing better to do with his time!! Shows you his level of insight and intelligence.

123ROLO · 12/03/2023 11:08

fluffylampbear · 12/03/2023 10:48

@123ROLO I suspect strongly that @RealMen is the author, as are most of the other similar posts from other usernames he is changing to.

Obviously has nothing better to do with his time!! Shows you his level of insight and intelligence.

Possibly.

Last I heard the author was in dubai trying to find proof andrew tate is innocent and was starting a smear campaign against the victims. He was also converting to Islam so he can shame women under the guise of 'religious beliefs'.

But he could maybe be squeezing in time to defend his crappy book

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RealMen · 12/03/2023 11:22

monsteramunch · 12/03/2023 10:22

@RealMen

Two women a week are murdered in the UK by current or former male intimate partners.

Come back to us and tell us things are equal when this statistic stops being true.

You should be furious with the men who commit these crimes, not the women who fear the crimes happening to them.

Grow up, do some reading and stop this victim complex where you feel hard done by because so many of your fellow men have given your sex a bad name.

The world isnt fair in the least and im sorry to hear that women are being killed, but if thats your argument, what do you say to the thousands of men falsely accused of sexual assault and those men end up either hated in their community, suicide, or in jail while the women who FALSELY accused men live their best lives and no punishment is given to them?
How is that fair

monsteramunch · 12/03/2023 11:32

@RealMen

The world isnt fair in the least and im sorry to hear that women are being killed, but if thats your argument, what do you say to the thousands of men falsely accused of sexual assault and those men end up either hated in their community, suicide, or in jail while the women who FALSELY accused men live their best lives and no punishment is given to them?How is that fair

Individual men being falsely accused and imprisoned isn't 'fair', obviously. And I haven't remotely suggested it is.

While it isn't fair, it also isn't an endemic issue. One in four women in the UK have been victims of sexual assault. This figure should horrify you and tackling that issue should be seen by you, if you apply logic, as a more widespread issue that affects more people and needs to be tackled as an absolute priority.

Nobody has ever said that it's 'fair' for a man to be falsely accused of sexual assault.

Why are you centring falsely accused men in a discussion about violence against women, which in the UK alone results in one in four women being sexually assaulted in their life and two women a week being murdered by male former or current partners?

123ROLO · 12/03/2023 11:51

Sexual assault / rape is far more under reported than it is falsely reported. Most women don't go to the police out of embarrassment and fear of it not being believed. So when men try to push this narrative that they are constantly at risk of false accusations, who does this harm the most? Women. It will just add to their fear of speaking up.

I also think this is a scapegoat for some men too, they talk so much about their vulnerability as men for being falsely accused that if they were to actually commit a crime they'd just say "see told you, women lie".

There was a # on twitter some weeks ago being shared #dontbelieveallwomen. With this mindset, what women will you believe?

If you are more concerned about what, say 1 in 10,000 men being falsely accused of rape, than the 1 in 4 women who actually do get raped/assaulted. Then that says a lot about you.

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Eyerollcentral · 12/03/2023 12:53

RealMen · 12/03/2023 06:55

Because women are the ones thats chanting it.
The world is equal. Period
No debate on this.
You get paid of what you know and you keep what you earn
There is women in damn near every industry you can think of.
Where is the inequality??
Why are women punishing male kids, male teens and adults for sins they didnt commit and clap, cheer, praise women for the fact y all say men aint shit, we dont need a men, men are stupid, rapist, predators when none of them even dealt with the company of men?
Please stop the cap

Is your boss a woman and you resent it? Sounds like it. There is structural inequality built in to society. Women do 90% of all unpaid caring work for the young, elderly and everyone in between. If you had half a brain cell you might have seen the tweets during international women’s day re the pay gaps in individual companies and understood actually a lot of women are still paid significantly less than men for the same work. I’d go on but your post shows me you are too dense to have a conversation with.

Eyerollcentral · 12/03/2023 12:55

RealMen · 12/03/2023 11:22

The world isnt fair in the least and im sorry to hear that women are being killed, but if thats your argument, what do you say to the thousands of men falsely accused of sexual assault and those men end up either hated in their community, suicide, or in jail while the women who FALSELY accused men live their best lives and no punishment is given to them?
How is that fair

‘Thousands’. Show me the statistics for this wild accusation please.

Justnot · 12/03/2023 13:05

Just wanted to note the level of badly written, badly argued drivel posted by MRA/TRA types on here, especially lately

it’s like reasoning with a drunk person

namitynamechange · 12/03/2023 13:13

@RealMen This isn't meant to sound patronising, apologies if it does...

You have been posting since about 5 in the morning (GMT) up to now. Assuming you are in the UK that is a lot of time you could have spent - going to the gym, reading, working, seeing friends, spending time with family etc. If you are in America I really hope you are getting some sleep now. Staying up into the early hours composing multiple posts to people on the other sides of the world to you (that go unanswered for hours because those people are asleep). Its much much better to go to bed early so that you can wake up early and really hit the ground running. Maybe make a rule to do that for one week and see how much you achieve and how much better you feel overall?
And while spending all ones time/money "simping" for women might not be a good idea I think joining an internet forum and restarting an old thread so that you can argue with mostly middle aged mothers (not all of us but most) on the internet on the other side of the world isn't a great use of your resources either. Especially when your arguments are rehashes of some very basic takes on the internet.

All the best!

xJoy · 12/03/2023 13:23

So true @namitynamechange
No point engaging with these types. They can stay up all night angry typing but women can still earn their own money and make some choices. When all you can offer another human being is to rescue them from dire poverty, that must be so frustrating. The halcyon days ey, when women had no money and no freedom to earn and they had to choose from the least angry bitter boring men available to survive!! Ah, the good ol' days.

TheMatriarchy · 12/03/2023 13:49

I looked this book up on Amazon and read the top reviews. One of them starts with how finding a traditional woman is hard these days, but he has acquired one.

Thats it folks, there in that word, a complete summation of this perspective. Women are not human beings, they are objects, to be acquired and used for your benefit.

This type of thinking is at the root of slavery, fascism, racism, genocide and every other evil perpetrated against human beings by other human beings. At its heart is dehumanisation, objectification and an inability to see the other as fully human with the same agency, rights and equity that you possess. The right to live a life as full and complete as your own.

It is true meaning of evil and the path to hell on earth.

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