Arbitration needed!

[Bearbehind]

bellin and I have had this argument many times and both think we’re right so I’m looking for arbitration! 😂

I think NI becoming a special economic zone won’t happen because the Tories won’t put it to a vote as they’d lose the support of the DUP and thus their working majority

bellini thinks the Tories would be prepared to put this to the vote because stopping no deal is more important than anything else

Who’s right?

Is proroguing Parliament 'leading'? Or is it the action of a bully who wants his own way?

We used to have a Parliamentary Democracy.

What on Earth is an Irish leaning republican? You are being such a snowflake.

Not a vast majority. That's a silly thing to claim.
Reuters excerpt, August 2019.

I feel despair today. About process. Some of us still believe in process. Or want to, anyway. I hate being in the minority in thinking that rule of law should be embraced.

When the politicians won't do what the people voted for by the largest vote ever, and have spent years trying to force the law their way, now someone stops them and it's not fair....pot kettle much.

Come on Mummy, can't you say SOMETHING truthful in support of your cause. Pah. From FullFact, not the largest turnout ever.

And more from FF

Ok, not the largest, but one of the largest in turnout of numbers.
So why shouldn't BJ push through what we voted for....

Because no one campaigned in 2016 for crashing out. We were told we didn't even have to prepare for it. Recently we were even told..

@bellinisurge - What on Earth is an Irish leaning republican?

Here's Mary Lou leaning in against Gerry - she's Irish, she's leaning and she's republican. He's only Irish and republican.

Did your ballot paper say Crash out with No Deal?

Or were you more persuaded by ' the easiest deals in history, they need us more than we need them, we hold all the cards, or from Johnson himself 'we are going to get a great deal', and of course, make Brexit a Titanic success.

Yep, that could well happen - it hit an iceberg and sank.

Bear and Bellini, I have no time for either of you because you have both tried to bully me and call me nasty names over the last 3 years.

copper there’s a difference between challenging on a discussion thread and bullying.

Bullying is a serious accusation not to be bandied around lightly and I’ve no time for people who do this

When you break up and leave a partner, do you still stay in the same house...no
While you may use the same shops you don't use the same trolly.
You don't pay their bill.
You leave them at night.
How can you say people didn't understand what leave or remain meant as a vote.
People were not stupid, 17 Million plus
knew this was going to happen...

The irony is mummmy the more I think about it the more convinced I am that Boriss plan is to avoid no deal not to force it through

He’s playing us all but especially Leavers

There will be a fudge on the WA and it’ll pass at the 11th hour

Bear , Boris needs it to go to No deal.
He wants his place in History, only no deal does this
Otherwise he is trying us down to no man's land and he knows that won't sit well with the voters .
If he did BINO he is the same as TM, and JC will flip again and blame him....

Boris needs it to go to No deal. He wants his place in History, only no deal does this

Boris isn’t stupid - he knows no deal will put him down in history for the wrong reasons

His plan is working though, you think he’s on your side - he’s not, he’s on Boriss side

I’m actually quite positive that no deal might be able to be avoided after all

Bear hold the front page, I'm inclined to agree with you on this. He may be backing Parliament into a corner to pass whatever it is he comes up with.

bellini 😂

Boris has laid his while plan on just leaving.
He wants to stand on the steps of No10 and say he took us out he honoured the vote.
Not to say well here is a deal, we got shafted, we still have to pay, we have no vote, oh and I gave up the fishing ..

Not to say well here is a deal, we got shafted, we still have to pay, we have no vote, oh and I gave up the fishing

But he won’t say that - he’ll spin it so it’s the best thing that ever happened

Try looking at his staff
These are not people who want a deal.
Look at what Boris is doing .
He is not going to deal.
Nor do the EU want to offer anything like this that would mean the UK won.. .

Did we elect the staff? I thought we didn't like unelected people telling us what to do. Or has that changed. Are we supposed to like them now?

TM had her helpers, or did that escape your notice.

@mummmy2017 , I know you don't want to face the fact that this devious shameless bastard has played you. Admitting you have been a sucker is hard.

But you seem to not see that No Deal right now is the only way.
The EU won't lets us go, still won't, so the only thing to do is to cut the chains and walk.....