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Westministenders: Brexit Preppers Are Traitors Who Don't Believe Enough

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RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 12:31

Believe in Brexit. Brexit will be great. If only you believe.

So this is why the pound has tanked.
This is why the Treasury has opened the piggie bank for prep. This has sparked something of a backlash amongst moderates and remain MPs.
This will go towards managing that Channel Tunnel Congestion in Kent we weren't going to have.
And to stockpiling drugs which again was just hysteria.
This is why Gove, an MP who actually does have an eye for detail, has been drafted into the Cabinet Office.
This is why after his stint at DEFRA he is planning to buy tonnes of meat at a fixed price to keep farms in business.

Johnson has been to NI. But it wasn't a publicity stunt apparently. This is a man who posed for a photo when he resigned from the Foreign Office.

He was met with protests.

He also has a phonecall with the Leo Varadkar which was 'warm', before its been said by the DUP that Dublin must be a willing partner in a Brexit Deal.

Johnson is also still sticking to the line that technology can solve the border issue. Technology which will not be available until 2030 at the earliest by the government's own admission.

Johnson has refused to meet any European leaders until they drop the backstop (I note there are no EU meetings planned until mid October just a couple of weeks before the 31st anyway, so this kind of suits him and makes him look tough when really its been timetabled that way for a while. The EU themselves say that the 'next possible contact' with Johnson isn't until the G7 at the end of August anyway too).

However his 'Brexit Sherpa' David Frost - Olly Robbins successor HAS been meeting with EU officials still...

Dr Phillip Lee has confirmed today that he is actively considering his future as a Tory and defecting to the LDs. The rumour has been going for a while, and he is in the process of being deselected by his local party. To openly say it, is quite something though.

We also have the Brecon By Election today, which if the LD win as expected, would reduce the government's majority to just 1.

It is possible that Johnson will be leading a minority government very soon, if the cards fall the right way.

The speculation is rife that Johnson actively wants to force a GE. This hasn't been helped by Dominic Cummings has ordered the preparation of a Budget in the week starting Oct 7. Which would need to be voted for through parliament.

Votes on budget and other important issues are where not having a majority become crucial.

If a budget vote got stuck and provoked a GE it would perhaps land whilst Brexit Party Supporters had returned to the Tory party but perhaps before all the shit has start to hit the fan and people get really fed up.

And even if we do have no deal, when we DO have a deal, we will have to put a bill through parliament to implement it. Whilst everyone has focused on the backstop, no one has thought about this... which is pretty important.

It is remarkable that a No Deal Supporting Government are now seemingly planning for Project Fear.

And we were the crazy ones?

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howabout · 01/08/2019 15:29

Continuity pre Boris and Jo local polling (per wiki) had Conservatives on 28% and Brexit Party on 20% . The LibDems were on 43% and Labour on 8%.
If the Brexit Party Tory vote goes home, as poll above suggests, and Labour vote is more loyal than polling predicts, as happened in Peterborough, then the bookies will be wrong - interesting to watch but will probably be decided on turn out.

TheNumberfaker · 01/08/2019 15:29

Just wondering what the numbers might be for a VoNC if some of the Tories abstained rather than supported government?

RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 15:29

Never mind food.
Will there be adequate water?

A damn has broken at a reservoir in Whalley Bridge and they are now evacuating the town.

That's not good for Brexit plans.

More seriously though, if we do have some sort of crisis during the immediate No Deal situation how on earth could we cope with it.

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TheElementsSong · 01/08/2019 15:31

Will there be adequate water?

Apparently we're to patriotically drink the promised milk lake, so it will be FIIIIIIIIIIINEEE.

timeforakinderworld · 01/08/2019 15:32

Bangs head on wall - who are these 34% of people who really would still vote tory?
hand up waving Oh I know this! They are the people who were sitting behind me in a restaurant last night going on and on about how wonderful BJ is - such a great orator/statesman/historian. Angry

Peregrina · 01/08/2019 15:33

If there's a VoNC and a government can be formed, no GE is needed.

Who could form such a Government? Unless they all see sense and form a Govt of National Unity - revoke A50, and despatch the ERG to produce a working paper on how the UK might effectively leave the EU with a realistic timetable, without stuffing up the GFA?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/08/2019 15:33

I read this Will Lee defecting as Will Lee defecating.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/08/2019 15:35

I know that dam. Grim.

flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 15:36

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TheElementsSong · 01/08/2019 15:36

flouncy high five Grin

ContinuityError · 01/08/2019 15:37

howabout it’s my DM’s constituency - Lib Dems have been super busy canvassing for months (much to DM’s disgust) so I’d be very surprised if the Tories hung onto it.

Motheroffourdragons · 01/08/2019 15:37

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howabout · 01/08/2019 15:38

Bracknell voted Leave (and local party has already had a VoNC in Dr Lee). In 2015 UKIP got 15% of the vote which switched to Labour in 2017. 2017 Conservative vote was 59%. I wouldn't have it down as fertile LibDem territory atm.

DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 15:38

So which passport do I show any employers ?

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howabout · 01/08/2019 15:40

Depends how motivating disgust proves to be continuity - that's what got Zac back in Richmond despite his pro-Brexit stance.

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Grinchly · 01/08/2019 15:47

Place mat king with the post spay zebra print onesie of shame.Grin

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RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 15:51

The milk lake is located in NI.

The rest of the country will have milk shortages.

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Rhubarbisevil · 01/08/2019 15:53

How long does milk freeze for?

bellinisurge · 01/08/2019 15:56

Ireland, rather annoyingly for Brexiteers, is far far far nearer to self sufficiency in food than we are in the UK.

Motheroffourdragons · 01/08/2019 15:56

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DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 15:56

How long does milk freeze for?

Us history buffs will have loads of ideas for preserving food without freezers ...

Milk you turn into butter and cheese (of course).

Songsofexperience · 01/08/2019 15:57

I like The Guardian's advice (as they wrap up the politics blog before the August break):

I hope you all get some holiday too. In the absence of the blog you can find lots of excellent political reporting at Guardian politics. And if you miss the minute by minute updates, then do feel free to take a break, read a book, ring your mum, or just generally tune out from the Brexit horror show for a while. You will probably feel much better as a result - and you can pick up again in September, when it will (almost certainly) all still remain unresolved.

I shall try but something tells me the horror show will not enjoy an intermission.

DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 15:57

Ireland, rather annoyingly for Brexiteers, is far far far nearer to self sufficiency in food than we are in the UK.

I am sure Priti Patel is already rounding up a raiding party or two.

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