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Westministenders: Brexit Preppers Are Traitors Who Don't Believe Enough

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RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 12:31

Believe in Brexit. Brexit will be great. If only you believe.

So this is why the pound has tanked.
This is why the Treasury has opened the piggie bank for prep. This has sparked something of a backlash amongst moderates and remain MPs.
This will go towards managing that Channel Tunnel Congestion in Kent we weren't going to have.
And to stockpiling drugs which again was just hysteria.
This is why Gove, an MP who actually does have an eye for detail, has been drafted into the Cabinet Office.
This is why after his stint at DEFRA he is planning to buy tonnes of meat at a fixed price to keep farms in business.

Johnson has been to NI. But it wasn't a publicity stunt apparently. This is a man who posed for a photo when he resigned from the Foreign Office.

He was met with protests.

He also has a phonecall with the Leo Varadkar which was 'warm', before its been said by the DUP that Dublin must be a willing partner in a Brexit Deal.

Johnson is also still sticking to the line that technology can solve the border issue. Technology which will not be available until 2030 at the earliest by the government's own admission.

Johnson has refused to meet any European leaders until they drop the backstop (I note there are no EU meetings planned until mid October just a couple of weeks before the 31st anyway, so this kind of suits him and makes him look tough when really its been timetabled that way for a while. The EU themselves say that the 'next possible contact' with Johnson isn't until the G7 at the end of August anyway too).

However his 'Brexit Sherpa' David Frost - Olly Robbins successor HAS been meeting with EU officials still...

Dr Phillip Lee has confirmed today that he is actively considering his future as a Tory and defecting to the LDs. The rumour has been going for a while, and he is in the process of being deselected by his local party. To openly say it, is quite something though.

We also have the Brecon By Election today, which if the LD win as expected, would reduce the government's majority to just 1.

It is possible that Johnson will be leading a minority government very soon, if the cards fall the right way.

The speculation is rife that Johnson actively wants to force a GE. This hasn't been helped by Dominic Cummings has ordered the preparation of a Budget in the week starting Oct 7. Which would need to be voted for through parliament.

Votes on budget and other important issues are where not having a majority become crucial.

If a budget vote got stuck and provoked a GE it would perhaps land whilst Brexit Party Supporters had returned to the Tory party but perhaps before all the shit has start to hit the fan and people get really fed up.

And even if we do have no deal, when we DO have a deal, we will have to put a bill through parliament to implement it. Whilst everyone has focused on the backstop, no one has thought about this... which is pretty important.

It is remarkable that a No Deal Supporting Government are now seemingly planning for Project Fear.

And we were the crazy ones?

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Juells · 01/08/2019 15:57

Place mat king with the post spay zebra print onesie of shame

That looks really good, so much more comfortable than a cone. My poor little darling had an infected dew claw taken off almost a fortnight ago, and still has the cone of shame :( Off to take a pic now.

DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 15:59

I shall try but something tells me the horror show will not enjoy an intermission.

and The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

derxa · 01/08/2019 16:01

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DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 16:05

You can freeze milk, but it's so bulky is it worth it?

If you have to have milk in your tea (and if we listened to our parents and grandparents we'd know that during WW2 people had what they were given) then UHT - ideally in the cafe cartons would be your best bet.

I'm not sure where electricity supplies and milk supplies lie on the falling tide of chaos line. I'd like to think milk, then electricity, but who knows ?

RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 16:05

Is this the same Priti Patel who apparently also wants back doors into encrypted communications and websites?

(Yep thats a gem of the day)

You can't freeze mik. The No Deal Brexit Freezers are already full. Good luck finding freezer space. Or fridge space.

The fridges are all full of No Deal Drugs.

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Clavinova · 01/08/2019 16:08

The milk lake is located in NI. The rest of the country will have milk shortages.

We had a positive trade balance in milk and cream in 2014 - although we imported 1% of liquid milk available to dairies. In 2013 only 1.3% of liquid milk produced in the EU was exported.

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Juells · 01/08/2019 16:10

Here he is. Bloody dew claws, there should be a law against them. Neither use nor ornament. He has a sore eye to add insult to injury, and is getting drops in four times a day. Life just isn't fair.

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flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 16:15

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GaspodeWonderCat · 01/08/2019 16:15

Clavinova - Source for this please:

We had a positive trade balance in milk and cream in 2014 - although we imported 1% of liquid milk available to dairies. In 2013 only 1.3% of liquid milk produced in the EU was exported.

Hazardtired · 01/08/2019 16:18

Aww there's nothing more pitiful and sympathy inducing than a cat or dog in a cone! I have a sighthound, he is blessed with a wider neck then scull no cone of shame for him it just falls off.

NoWordForFluffy · 01/08/2019 16:19

Who could form such a Government? Unless they all see sense and form a Govt of National Unity - revoke A50, and despatch the ERG to produce a working paper on how the UK might effectively leave the EU with a realistic timetable, without stuffing up the GFA?

This is my hope: the grown ups see sense and take charge just to push sensible shit until a GE is called, once said sensible shit is concluded (i.e. revoke!).

Juells · 01/08/2019 16:21

Ireland, rather annoyingly for Brexiteers, is far far far nearer to self sufficiency in food than we are in the UK.

Stands to reason I suppose - we're more of an agricultural economy, while you're service and manufacturing. I see several years of potatoes and cabbage ahead though Grin

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/08/2019 16:23

Im waiting for one of my bad cats to come close enough that I can grab her to clip her claws. She's got wind of this idea. and keeps teasing me by circling about 45cms (for any JRM supporters that's around 18 inches) away from me.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/08/2019 16:24

I think we should start a cabbage and potatoes recipe thread. Wink

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Clavinova · 01/08/2019 16:25

GaspodeWonderCat
The last one was from memory - but I have an up-to-date link (2019) which confirms my post - it also shows we import a lot of cheese;

dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-information/processing-trade/imports-exports/uk-dairy-trade-balance/#.XUMEYdFK2Uk

flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 16:27

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GaspodeWonderCat · 01/08/2019 16:36

Clavinova - thanks for source info. Reading it now

tobee · 01/08/2019 16:37

I think milk freezes for up to 6 months. We did it once when it was snowy but it had an unappealing fluorescent green tinge to it and no one the dc would drink it

DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 16:52

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/01/mark-francois-tory-rebels-vow-to-block-brexit-deal-even-without-backstop

A leading Tory rebel who voted down Theresa May’s Brexit deal has warned Boris Johnson that he and dozens of colleagues will block any attempt to pass the agreement again – even if the Irish backstop is removed.

Mark Francois, one of 28 Tory MPs who repeatedly held out against May’s deal, said Johnson had been very clear at a meeting of European Research Group MPs that the withdrawal agreement in its entirety was “dead”.

He told the Telegraph’s Chopper’s Brexit podcast: “He was absolutely emphatic about it, so we took him at his word. I don’t think you could revive the withdrawal agreement realistically. Even if you took the backstop out, there are too many other things that are wrong with it.”

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BigChocFrenzy · 01/08/2019 17:12

After Priti Patel's veiled threat to starve out Ireland,
an Irish minister was asked on C4 news if Ireland faced a food shortage after a No Deal Brexit.

He replied that Ireland, population 4.8 million, produced enough food to feed 35 million

He didn't add that the UK, population 65 million, produces only half of its own food and it imports 30% from the EU

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldeucom/129/12904.htm

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