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Westministenders: Brexit Preppers Are Traitors Who Don't Believe Enough

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RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 12:31

Believe in Brexit. Brexit will be great. If only you believe.

So this is why the pound has tanked.
This is why the Treasury has opened the piggie bank for prep. This has sparked something of a backlash amongst moderates and remain MPs.
This will go towards managing that Channel Tunnel Congestion in Kent we weren't going to have.
And to stockpiling drugs which again was just hysteria.
This is why Gove, an MP who actually does have an eye for detail, has been drafted into the Cabinet Office.
This is why after his stint at DEFRA he is planning to buy tonnes of meat at a fixed price to keep farms in business.

Johnson has been to NI. But it wasn't a publicity stunt apparently. This is a man who posed for a photo when he resigned from the Foreign Office.

He was met with protests.

He also has a phonecall with the Leo Varadkar which was 'warm', before its been said by the DUP that Dublin must be a willing partner in a Brexit Deal.

Johnson is also still sticking to the line that technology can solve the border issue. Technology which will not be available until 2030 at the earliest by the government's own admission.

Johnson has refused to meet any European leaders until they drop the backstop (I note there are no EU meetings planned until mid October just a couple of weeks before the 31st anyway, so this kind of suits him and makes him look tough when really its been timetabled that way for a while. The EU themselves say that the 'next possible contact' with Johnson isn't until the G7 at the end of August anyway too).

However his 'Brexit Sherpa' David Frost - Olly Robbins successor HAS been meeting with EU officials still...

Dr Phillip Lee has confirmed today that he is actively considering his future as a Tory and defecting to the LDs. The rumour has been going for a while, and he is in the process of being deselected by his local party. To openly say it, is quite something though.

We also have the Brecon By Election today, which if the LD win as expected, would reduce the government's majority to just 1.

It is possible that Johnson will be leading a minority government very soon, if the cards fall the right way.

The speculation is rife that Johnson actively wants to force a GE. This hasn't been helped by Dominic Cummings has ordered the preparation of a Budget in the week starting Oct 7. Which would need to be voted for through parliament.

Votes on budget and other important issues are where not having a majority become crucial.

If a budget vote got stuck and provoked a GE it would perhaps land whilst Brexit Party Supporters had returned to the Tory party but perhaps before all the shit has start to hit the fan and people get really fed up.

And even if we do have no deal, when we DO have a deal, we will have to put a bill through parliament to implement it. Whilst everyone has focused on the backstop, no one has thought about this... which is pretty important.

It is remarkable that a No Deal Supporting Government are now seemingly planning for Project Fear.

And we were the crazy ones?

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Basilpots · 01/08/2019 17:14

So apart from the backstop what else do the ERG dislike above the WA ?

Tobee we need to get Smith out he’s trundling towards a century.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/08/2019 17:17

The UK imports 55% of fresh fruit & veg from the EU

  • It is a lot easier to import fresh produce from our close neightbours than from across the world

Food was named one of the top priorities in the leaked govt prepping plan for port flow

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flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 17:20

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DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 17:20

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GeistohneGrenzen · 01/08/2019 17:20

pmk

re boy cats - do they still decorate neutered toms with gentian violet? Ours was done decades ago and as he was pure white it caused much comment. His ears were blushing for at least a week afterwards.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/08/2019 17:20

I agree - for once ! - with howabout that the byelection is far from safe for the LDems,
because of BJ's honeymoon boost

< apologies to anyone eating their tea, for combining "BJ" & "Honeymoon" >

Iambuffy · 01/08/2019 17:23

Pmk

BigChocFrenzy · 01/08/2019 17:23

Flouncy Why do you think I'm holed up in Germany ? Grin
Lindt stores 🍫 are safe here, as is everything else
No consumer stockpiles here

I only need worry about Marmite crisps, as they just aren't available, except via Amazon UK

Iambuffy · 01/08/2019 17:24

Oh, well.
Been meaning to give up dairy anyway...

flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 17:28

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BigChocFrenzy · 01/08/2019 17:31

Tory gloating that Ireland's economy will crash may be disappointed

Peter Foster@pmdfoster

Something to factor into the “Ireland will blink” discussion.

JPCampbellBiz@JP_Biz

The Central Bank of Ireland’s latest quarterly report suggests the Irish economy is close to or at capacity & there’s a risk of overheating.

They think the economy will just about continue to grow next year in event of a no deal Brexit.

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BigChocFrenzy · 01/08/2019 17:33

Seems that No-Deal money is too little, too late to work on Brexit Day:

Joe Owen@jl_owen

Of the £2.1bn no deal cash announced today:

Most of it will be unspent / unable to make a difference by October.

c.£400m is just the cost of delaying Brexit (& doing stuff again)

c.£250m could make a real difference

My latest for @instituteforgov

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/extra-no-deal-brexit-money-sends-signal-not-much-more

Most of the extra cash is a gesture rather than a serious plan to improve Brexit readiness for October

flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 17:34

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bellinisurge · 01/08/2019 17:34

You've just cheered up my dh @BigChocFrenzy . We both have Irish born parents.

BackInTime · 01/08/2019 17:44

Tory gloating that Ireland's economy will crash may be disappointed

Watch this completely bypass any media here.

bellinisurge · 01/08/2019 17:48

Let's hope Varadkar drops it into those warm conversations with Johnson and Foster.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 01/08/2019 17:50

The British media seem to treat Brexit as if it were light entertainment not a full blown crisis.

Nobody in my office talks about Brexit anymore, country seems to be sleepwalking into this disaster. I find the situation surreal.

tobee · 01/08/2019 17:53

He's done it Basil

wherearemychickens · 01/08/2019 17:57

That's the thing I find really odd too - it barely gets discussed at work in a work sense (people moan about politicians). We don't appear to have any mitigation in place for a hard deal, let alone a no deal.

wherearemychickens · 01/08/2019 17:58

Business as usual - like Wiley Coyote having run off the cliff, but just before he starts falling

DarkAtEndOfTunnel · 01/08/2019 18:01

PMK, thanks

SegregateMumBev · 01/08/2019 18:03

Yeeesh. Off work with a "dancers fracture" (5th metatarsal)

Binge watching "Years and Years", wow, so prescient, so moving!

A bit taken aback by a close friend, who's a card carrying member of the Conservatives, and who posted a smiling photo of herself with Bojo on SM last night.....

Arlene Foster seriously guilty of "Newspeak"

Treated myself to an online delivery of wine, licorice allsorts, and Magnum minis.

QuckTheDuck · 01/08/2019 18:10

A couple of tidbits from the papers today:

Boris Johnson’s warning that he could drag Britain out of the EU without a deal within 100 days has sent sterling tumbling to the lowest levels in more than two years.

Since his elevation to No 10, sterling has crashed below $1.22 against the US dollar and recorded the worst performance of any major currency in the world over the month of July.

www.theguardian.com/…/bank-of-england-warns-1-in-3-…

Sterling has had the worst month since October 2016, losing 4.3% so far in July, with the pound the worst-performing major currency in the world since Johnson entered Downing Street last week.

www.theguardian.com/…/pound-sterling-no-deal-brexit…

Pound plunges to 31-month low as Brexit recession warning issued by Bank of England

Boris Johnson's government is more unpopular after his first week as prime minister than any other incoming administration in the last 40 years, according to a new poll.

Three quarters (75 per cent) of voters are already dissatisfied with the new government's performance, compared to just 18 per cent who are satisfied, according to an Ipsos MORI survey.

The net satisfaction rating of -57 is the worst for any incoming government in 40 years of the company's polling, and is significantly lower than the next worst rating of -31 given to John Major's new government in December 1990.

The Bank of England has warned the UK faces a "one in three chance" of a recession even if there is a smooth exit from the European Union.
In its quarterly forecasts, the Bank said unresolved questions over Britain’s future relationship with the EU will slow the economy down over the coming year even if there is an orderly Brexit.

www.independent.co.uk/…/boris-johnson-news-live-bre…

bellinisurge · 01/08/2019 18:11

Hope you mend soon @SegregateMumBev

NoWordForFluffy · 01/08/2019 18:18

What time are we expecting the by-election result? Are they quick counters there?

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