Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Brexit

Westministenders: Brexit Preppers Are Traitors Who Don't Believe Enough

947 replies

RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 12:31

Believe in Brexit. Brexit will be great. If only you believe.

So this is why the pound has tanked.
This is why the Treasury has opened the piggie bank for prep. This has sparked something of a backlash amongst moderates and remain MPs.
This will go towards managing that Channel Tunnel Congestion in Kent we weren't going to have.
And to stockpiling drugs which again was just hysteria.
This is why Gove, an MP who actually does have an eye for detail, has been drafted into the Cabinet Office.
This is why after his stint at DEFRA he is planning to buy tonnes of meat at a fixed price to keep farms in business.

Johnson has been to NI. But it wasn't a publicity stunt apparently. This is a man who posed for a photo when he resigned from the Foreign Office.

He was met with protests.

He also has a phonecall with the Leo Varadkar which was 'warm', before its been said by the DUP that Dublin must be a willing partner in a Brexit Deal.

Johnson is also still sticking to the line that technology can solve the border issue. Technology which will not be available until 2030 at the earliest by the government's own admission.

Johnson has refused to meet any European leaders until they drop the backstop (I note there are no EU meetings planned until mid October just a couple of weeks before the 31st anyway, so this kind of suits him and makes him look tough when really its been timetabled that way for a while. The EU themselves say that the 'next possible contact' with Johnson isn't until the G7 at the end of August anyway too).

However his 'Brexit Sherpa' David Frost - Olly Robbins successor HAS been meeting with EU officials still...

Dr Phillip Lee has confirmed today that he is actively considering his future as a Tory and defecting to the LDs. The rumour has been going for a while, and he is in the process of being deselected by his local party. To openly say it, is quite something though.

We also have the Brecon By Election today, which if the LD win as expected, would reduce the government's majority to just 1.

It is possible that Johnson will be leading a minority government very soon, if the cards fall the right way.

The speculation is rife that Johnson actively wants to force a GE. This hasn't been helped by Dominic Cummings has ordered the preparation of a Budget in the week starting Oct 7. Which would need to be voted for through parliament.

Votes on budget and other important issues are where not having a majority become crucial.

If a budget vote got stuck and provoked a GE it would perhaps land whilst Brexit Party Supporters had returned to the Tory party but perhaps before all the shit has start to hit the fan and people get really fed up.

And even if we do have no deal, when we DO have a deal, we will have to put a bill through parliament to implement it. Whilst everyone has focused on the backstop, no one has thought about this... which is pretty important.

It is remarkable that a No Deal Supporting Government are now seemingly planning for Project Fear.

And we were the crazy ones?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
38
Juells · 01/08/2019 15:03

said by the DUP that Dublin must be a willing partner in a Brexit Deal.

I giggled last night when I saw Arlene Foster on Sky News announcing that 'Varadkar has to dial back the rhetoric' 😂 The Irish govt have been issuing overly polite diplomatic statements for months, while being insulted up to the eyeballs for having a position and sticking to it.

bellinisurge · 01/08/2019 15:05

I loved the "dial back the rhetoric" too. So many comedy moments in this shit show. 😂

Peregrina · 01/08/2019 15:06

It isn't really like Wokingham, Ascot or Windsor for example.

Errm Redwood?

bellinisurge · 01/08/2019 15:06

@Motheroffourdragons , you've done a good thing for your kittens. Hope they are back to strength soon.

howabout · 01/08/2019 15:08

A bit more polling news.

NEW
@IpsosMORI
/
@standardnews
POLL

Headline voting intention (likely voters)

Conservatives 34%
Labour 24%
Lib Dem 20%
Brexit Party 9%
Green 6%
SNP 4
Others 4%

Cons were +2 in June*

Interested to see how this plays out in Brecon.

flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 15:13

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

NoWordForFluffy · 01/08/2019 15:13

PMK. Thanks, Red.

I've been up a mountain this morning and I'm slightly knackered now. Got to get the wear out of the kids' hiking boots though!

Anyway, I keep saying this, but Dr Lee's announcement makes me think it even more, but this recess is actually a really important time. MPs (the moderate Tories who are already pissed off / deselected / about to be deselected / at or near retirement age) have got time to actually think about the reality of the present position and whether they really want to be a part of it come September.

I would not be surprised to see a number of people crossing the floor come Sept, whether to another party or to become independent.

God knows what, if anything, Labour officials are doing with the time to come up with some kind of plan, but there are things afoot with the minority parties, I'm sure (strategies etc). I'd think that maybe individual Labour MPs like Starmer, Cooper etc might be trying to work out some strategies too.

September will be VERY interesting indeed. Roll on the return from recess.

Motheroffourdragons · 01/08/2019 15:13

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

ContinuityError · 01/08/2019 15:13

Interested to see how this plays out in Brecon.

Well given nearly 20% of constituents signed the Brecon recall petition and political betting is giving a 92% chance of the Lib Dems winning back the seat from a convicted fraudster ...

NoWordForFluffy · 01/08/2019 15:14

I lie: a fell, not a mountain. It just felt like one with a whinging (occasionally, not constantly!) 5 year old.

ContinuityError · 01/08/2019 15:14

Motheroffourdragons

I think you should post a photo of the kittens wearing the cone of shame Smile

DGRossetti · 01/08/2019 15:15

Anyway, I keep saying this, but Dr Lee's announcement makes me think it even more, but this recess is actually a really important time. MPs (the moderate Tories who are already pissed off / deselected / about to be deselected / at or near retirement age) have got time to actually think about the reality of the present position and whether they really want to be a part of it come September.

Too late, too late, too late.

NoWordForFluffy · 01/08/2019 15:18

Yeah, yeah, DGR. But maybe not. If there's a VoNC and a government can be formed, no GE is needed.

All hope is not lost until it's lost.

prettybird · 01/08/2019 15:18

I second the desire for a photo of the kittens in their cones of shame Grin

We could never get our cats to keep them on

...have you ever seen a cat going through a cat flap backwards so that they could pull off the cone of shame?! Shock

Motheroffourdragons · 01/08/2019 15:19

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 01/08/2019 15:20

Thanks Red.

Oh dear, I think Brexit has finally killed off my sense of humour because the dial back the rhetoric comment enraged me. Mind you, I did find IDS a week or so back complaining on any media outlet that would have him that we’d ended up with a bad deal because the EU are better negotiators than the UK very amusing...

Poor Nigel ... I'm guessing a lot of his Brexiteer support is fading, now Boris has gone all Rambo.

Apologies if this has been discussed before but I’m perplexed about how it’s ok for the leader of a political party to have the platform of a daily radio show to disseminate his propaganda. Especially now when we seem to be in a campaign period in all but name. Was his show in air in the run-up to the Euro elections?

tobee · 01/08/2019 15:21

flouncy Grin

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 01/08/2019 15:21

On air.

flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 15:22

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

RedToothBrush · 01/08/2019 15:23

Will Lee defecting help, make no difference or potentially lead to more problems and chaos? Lee has been a consistent rebel on Europe over the last 3 years and was already voting against the government over Brexit.

I believe it open to debate as to the effect.

OP posts:
prettybird · 01/08/2019 15:25

But he's not an MP Wink - and his party is not actually a political party Hmm - it's a limited company with subscribers rather than members Confused

....Still not sure how that works with the Electoral Commission and safeguards regarding purdah and party political broadcasts Confused

Motheroffourdragons · 01/08/2019 15:26

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

Myriade · 01/08/2019 15:26

PMK

flouncyfanny · 01/08/2019 15:28

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Peregrina · 01/08/2019 15:28

But Bracknell is a more varied place

I knew Bracknell - I worked there between 1998 and 2003. It might now be prime LibDem target territory?

Swipe left for the next trending thread