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Westminstenders: A False Sense of Security

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RedToothBrush · 12/04/2019 22:34

The new exit date, unless we agree a deal sooner, is the 31st October.

It seems ages away, but its runs the risk of a false sense of security too.

The first deadline is May 22nd. The Conservative Party would dearly like to avoid European Elections. They are already liable to face wipe out in the early May local elections, as the party was at its peak in 2015 under Cameron when there were last elections.

The EU elections have the added danger of proportional representation meaning UKIP and The Brexit Party could win seats from them. This is despite polling suggesting that Ukip and the Brexit Party are unlikely to reach the high watermark of 2015 and this could lead to fewer UKIP style MEPs this time round.

The liklihood of a deal by 22nd May is low though. Especially given how well Tory - Labour talks are going. The potential for a deal seems remote in the next few weeks.

The next deadline falls on 30th June. If we do have EU elections, the next target for the Tory Party is the end of June to get a deal before the newly elected MEPs can take their seats. However if the goal is unachievable before EU elections, it seems unlikely that agreement will be found in the next 30 days unless there is a major change of heart amongst the hardcore ERG and the DUP. Labour will want to see the Tories humiliated too much.

May who says she will go, will face another wave of pressure to resign during May and June. Messages out of No10, though not May herself, had indicated an exit around 22nd May on the condition a deal was done. Crafty as ever, what May actually said was she would stay on until we reached the second stage of Brexit and had effectively left. This now falls as late as Oct 31st, thus killing plans for a summer Tory leader election.

Once we get past June though, time for a deal, any deal starts to become very limited. Parliament only sits until mid July. Here May hits another problem. The two year parliamentary session ends. There has been talk of it being extended but the DUP have firmly said no to this.

This means when parliament is due to return in September we have an issue. To start a new session May will need a majority to pass a Queens Speech. If the DUP and Hardline ERGers withdraw support in protest at May still being PM what happens? Can May win support from elsewhere. It seems unlikely.

At this point the question of a General Election looms large. And we only have six weeks from then before we exit the EU. If a GE is triggered then, the risk of no deal is extremely high, which might encourage some to support May from across the aisle to prevent parliament from being shut and losing those crucial six weeks.

The danger over the next few weeks, is there is a false sense of there being lots of time left. The reality is our real deadline might be in effect the end of the parliamentary session in mid July. After that all bets are off.

The date of 31st October isn't the one you should keep your eyes on.

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Sostenueto · 14/04/2019 22:56

I held her first as her mum had emergency caesarian. Then had to take her home from birth for a week and look after her as mum had massive infection and blood transfusions and had to stay in hospital. So she's almost like my own baby ( but not). Maybe that is why we are so close. She's in safe hands so got to think positive but sometimes that's really hard to do.

Sostenueto · 14/04/2019 22:57

Better go now as I've disrupted thread. My apologies to all.Flowers

Jux · 14/04/2019 23:04

Sos thinking of you and rooting for those platelets to multiply.

BestIsWest · 14/04/2019 23:06

No need to apologise Sos. Keep us updated Flowers

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 14/04/2019 23:31

Sos I’m so sorry to read the news about your dgd. I can’t imagine how you and your DD must be feeling. Wishing dgd, dd and you well. We’ll all be thinking of you I’m sure. Flowers

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/04/2019 23:45

sostenueto

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SwedishEdith · 14/04/2019 23:48

Sorry to hear that Sos. Fingers crossed for you all.

andnotadroptodrink · 15/04/2019 00:08

Delurking to say I hope your dgd is OK asap Sostenueto (I lurked on the GCSE 2018 thread too so remember you talking about her there too).

And since I'm delurking briefly - thanks so much to RTB and all the other regulars for so many interesting and informative posts over the last 2-3 years (I sometimes have to stop reading for a while but always come here first when Brexit is on my mind).

HazardGhost · 15/04/2019 00:25

sos all the best for your family. Your dgd is a such a smart cookie and I hope her immune system rallies soon Flowers

mathanxiety · 15/04/2019 04:44

Flowers Sostenueto.

Hope all will be well and that she is in good hands.

x

lonelyplanetmum · 15/04/2019 05:00

So sorry to read the news about Sos's dgd. Hoping she is having excellent care and the morning brings betterThanks news.

missclimpson · 15/04/2019 05:11

So sorry to read this Sos. Hugs from another grandmother. 💐

QueenOfThorns · 15/04/2019 06:19

Sos Flowers

magimedi · 15/04/2019 06:52

Sorry to hear such bad news, Sos.

I know just how special ones GCs are. Flowers

BigChocFrenzy · 15/04/2019 07:01

sos and your DGD 💐
WIshing her all the best

NoWordForFluffy · 15/04/2019 07:12

I hope your DGD recovers quickly, Sos. What a shock for you all. Look after yourself. Flowers

NoSixPlease · 15/04/2019 07:41

Thinking of you and yours sos Flowers

TheElementsSong · 15/04/2019 07:48

Sending my best wishes to you and your DGD Sos Flowers

LonelyTiredandLow · 15/04/2019 07:50

What a shock for you all @Sos. Flowers to you all and wishing a speedy recovery.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/04/2019 08:01
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TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/04/2019 08:02

Wrong thread again!!!
Buggy apols!!

Runningintothesunset · 15/04/2019 08:06

Flowers Sos, hope the news from the hospital is better this morning. Thinking of you all

WhatWouldScoobyDoo · 15/04/2019 08:15

sos Flowers thinking of you and your DGD. X

Iambuffy · 15/04/2019 08:17

sos
Both you and your dear gd are in my thoughts xxxx

frumpety · 15/04/2019 08:18

sos Flowers

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