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Westminstenders: The Last Rites

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RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 23:52

After May's disastrous speech to the nation, we've hit the impasse once and for all.

She managed to enrage everyone from Brexiteers to hard Remainers and everyone in between. It was so poorly judged it's difficult to know where to begin. It just feeds the division and anger in our society in all quarters.

It's also massively undermines her appeal to the EU for an extension. If France thought we were a political basket case they were well shot of, and didn't want more social contagion from before 8pm, then they certainly won't have changed their minds since.

May's speech was that of a would be dictator. After next Friday, she effectively has both the justification and the power to act upon those instincts. She has spoken out against parliamentary democracy and consistently disregarded the law.

It's hard to see any outcome but no deal with no extension at this point. We are no waiting on a miracle to save us and that's no more than a forlorn hope. Something we hold on to, until reality presents itself.

The Last Rites of British Democracy have been served this week.

And now we face the wait for what seems now inevitable.

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Songsofexperience · 21/03/2019 06:06

when I just refreshed the no deal one jumped a little too (at nearly 5am, very odd!)

5am UK = 8am Moscow

pepinana · 21/03/2019 06:07

Pmk

Very frightened this morning.

LonelyTiredandLow · 21/03/2019 06:07

373,966 when I just looked!

hereweareyes · 21/03/2019 06:09

PMK

hereweareyes · 21/03/2019 06:10

Very frightened this morning.

Ditto. But I'm going to get up, get ready for work, get the kids ready, get on with things until lunchtime (got a mountain of work to do).

Keep on keeping on, people!

Then we shall see...

bellinisurge · 21/03/2019 06:10

Pmk means pmk.

Thanks Red.

SeeYouLaterUserData · 21/03/2019 06:11

She's gone more Erdogan than Erdogan. Maybe Penny Mordants "fears" were legit...Turkey has flooded into the UK Hmm

LonelyTiredandLow · 21/03/2019 06:12

It's going up by roughly 100 votes every 10 seconds...

pepinana · 21/03/2019 06:13

Don't parliament have to debate any petition over 100k?

Songsofexperience · 21/03/2019 06:15

It's going up by roughly 100 votes every 10 seconds...

So that's 36,000 an hour. If it keeps up, it could reach the million tonight.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 21/03/2019 06:18

It’s debated in a little select committee room. Not the main parliament.
I fear they will bandy their phrase about the referendum being “ the will of the people” even if it is debated.
But sharing and signing is the only thing we can do at this late stage to show what a shot show we think the Brexit situation is at the moment.

pepinana · 21/03/2019 06:21

I've emailed my MP, for all the good it will do.

Songsofexperience · 21/03/2019 06:22

I'm not actually joking when I say the only hope would be for that petition to reach 8 digits. Otherwise they just will not listen.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 21/03/2019 06:24

But surely a million in 3 days will make them notice?

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 21/03/2019 06:26

It is going to be debated. It says on the website that it has been waiting one day for a debate date.

Horehound · 21/03/2019 06:32

Morning!

AndItStillSaidFourOfTwo · 21/03/2019 06:38

I am so, so sorry for all this (said in horrified sympathy, not a sense of guilt).

Am well out* of it all (for which I feel a mixture of glad and guilty), having received my German citizenship back in November.

*Not entirely. The Spiegel website is leading with an analysis of the likely losses to German regions in a hard and soft Brexit scenario. Dh and I won't be directly affected, but it's good news for (almost Hmm ) no-one.

Any residual sympathy I had for TM has evaporated in the light of her attempt to gaslight the public.

NotNowMrTumnus · 21/03/2019 06:45

The petition has reached 400k now.

Efferlunt · 21/03/2019 06:50

She may be behaving like a dictator but the reality is she’s given all her cards to the EU.

Worst. negotiator. ever.

ElenadeClermont · 21/03/2019 06:51

Thanks for reposting petition. The previous thread was so fast-moving, I could not find it.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/03/2019 06:52

PMK

Westminstenders: The Last Rites
blibblibs · 21/03/2019 06:56

It's taking less than a minute to go up by 1000!

67chevvyimpala · 21/03/2019 07:01

Pmk

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 21/03/2019 07:04

The banks are moving £1 trillion worth of assets to Europe.

What does Theresa May hope to gain out of Brexit? Genuine question.
She’s said she’s going to resign once her deal is through.
She triggered article 50 in the first place.

For the Leavers to realise what they truly voted for, then they need to experience No Deal. Unfortunately so do the rest of us. Food shortages; civil unrest. All seem horribly likely.
Then what? a country put back 70 years and no bargaining power...

Holidayshopping · 21/03/2019 07:04

Are any MPs who need convincing really going to have heard her speech last night and think-oh, yes-I’ll support this woman now!

What voice do we actually have now. Our PM wants a crap deal and my muppet Tory MP will vote for it!