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Westministenders: Well this is getting interesting!

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 14:52

The Minister responsible for writing a deal with the EU has succeeded in coming to an agreement. And has subsequently resigned because he can not agree with it. This man previously didn't know where Dover was, and why this was important. This man is a solicitor used to writing and reading complicated documents.

And we are supposed to believe he has done the honourable thing and has quit on a matter of principle. And has in no way, been a Carpetbagger all along and has deliberately intended to scupper a deal.

Mundell is not wrong about his former Cabinet College but its not terribly polite.

Esther has fucked off too. She was cut out the loop over the UC slow down and was precorded as civil servants thought she'd go crackers if she gave a live interview. This seems consistent with reports that she threw a tantrum in the Cabinet meeting, demanding a vote, before Sir Humphrey told her to refer to the Cabinet Handbook that states that votes are not allowed.

Rees-Smugg seems to have triggered a split in the ERG and has submitted a letter to Graham. Graham has been to see Julian, to tell him that he's not had enough fan mail - yet. Other ERG seem more content to just attempt to vote the deal down. Will there be a confidence vote? If there is, will May win? If she does she gets a special prize of 12 months immunity albeit with the booby prize of still having to get a deal through Parliament.

May now seems to be running a minority government as there are suggestions that the confidence and supply deal with the DUP is over. Kate Hoey appear to have joined the DUP. Perhaps she should have resigned from the Labour party first.

Gove was offered the poison chalice of the Brexit Secretary post. Initial reports said he baulked at the responsibility. Will he resign? Is he just going to go for the top job now? There is now suggestion, he hasn't rejected it afterall. Maybe she should just abolish the department and reallocate resources to the Cabinet office (like she's already done anyway).

Mordaunt is meeting the PM this afternoon to be told personally that there isn't a cat in hell's chance that May will have a free vote over Brexit. Just so she can get the PR for her leadership bid. Resignation scheduled for this afternoon.

Hunt and Javid just sat on the front bench after making noises to please leavers and set themselves up for their leadership bid.

Johnson is lurking. No statement today. Got some ringing around to get supporters for his leadership bid? Will he be the stalking horse?

Loathsome and Fox, admit their political careers have reached their zenith, and they got a cat in hell's chance of getting another Cabinet post. They are not resigning. Today at least.

Greyling is currently silent. There is speculation that his resignation is running late. Twitter is having a field day with jokes.

Duncan has said that an ERG candidate won't be able to form a government - implying that Tories would resign the whip if they did.

Stewart, has done his honourable best to support May through thick and thin, with his best Comical Ali impression and spouting any old bollocks on the radio. Bless Little Rory.

Neill retweets him. Soames doesn't sounds unlike them both. Morgan wouldn't mind a Cabinet job again. Soubry doesn't really care who is in charge as long anymore so long as its not the ERG.

Hancock said in Cabinet that he couldn't guarentee no deaths in a no deal situation. Leavers do not have an alternative idea to May's deal but No Deal. They don't mind risking Hancock being unable to protect people from death.

There are 10 days to go until the EU Summit. We have no idea if we will have a clear PM. Two days later we find out if unilateral revokation is an option to save our necks from disaster if we get that far.

If there is a no confidence vote, its penciled in for Tuesday.

The only Brexit certainity you can be sure of is this thread won't make it til then.

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DGRossetti · 15/11/2018 15:10

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Chocolala · 15/11/2018 15:11

Well - I certainly agree with Redman on the second point

OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/11/2018 15:13

Well, May has hung on so far today.... she has the tenacity of a barnacle, I'll give her that.

plaidlife · 15/11/2018 15:14

Thanks Red.
I'll still no sure what I think about the deal.
I have emailed my Brexit loving MP to ask if he is going to vote for it.

DGRossetti · 15/11/2018 15:15

Well, May has hung on so far today.... she has the tenacity of a barnacle, I'll give her that.

I just knew she would. The ERG are just piss and wind, and it's starting to show. If you never wanted to hear from them again, take them out for meal (that's those that admit to being in it) sneak a vegetarian meal onto the bill and suggest splitting it. They'd be there till doomsday.

DGRossetti · 15/11/2018 15:16

I have emailed my Brexit loving MP to ask if he is going to vote for it.

Hopefully in the guise of a rabid Brexiteer who insists this is the deal we need. If that fucks their head, so be it.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 15:16

Steven Swinford @Steven_Swinford
EXCLUSIVE:

Michael Gove will ONLY become Theresa May's Brexit Secretary if he can renegotiate her deal and the November 25 EU summit is scrapped.

And he is STILL weighing up whether to quit Cabinet...

Darren McCaffrey @DarrenEuronews
Negotiate with whom? Angela Merkel just said agreed deal is not open to renegotiation

So Gove is resigning and lining up for a leadership bid...

Faisal Islam @faisalislam
Former minister John Hayes just gone into Number 10

No sign of Mordaunt yet...?

Sheryll Murray @sheryllmurray
^I have lost confidence in the Brexit policy of the Prime Minister and
have therefore written to the Chairman of the 1922 Committee asking for a vote to take place over her Leadership^

SEVEN

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OublietteBravo · 15/11/2018 15:17

I’m at a conference. Every time I come out of a session I check to see what is going on.

I’m due back in the U.K. at 20:30 tomorrow - I’m currently playing ‘will the government have fallen before I get home?’

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 15:18

Nicholas Soames @NSoames
Truly awful behaviour by ERG and desperate Showboating by #reesmogg and S Baker #unacceptabledisloyalty

Can't we all be friends?

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Peregrina · 15/11/2018 15:18

Ian Dunt said that the deal was like the one Turkey has, which no one talked about. I did, Smile I said that last night on the other thread, or at the speed the threads are going, the thread before!

OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/11/2018 15:18

BBC reporters seem almost delirious with excitement.

I've got no real work done today. Confused

BertramKibbler · 15/11/2018 15:19

I think May will hang on. She’s hung on for so bloody long now!

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/11/2018 15:20

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Hazardswan · 15/11/2018 15:20

I think today is Get Nowt Done Thursday.

Thanks red

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 15:21

norman smith @BBCNormanS
Tory minister tells me if Brexiteers vote down Deal -he and others will openly campaign for a second referendum and to stay in EU.

Joe Pike @joepike
EXCL: North East Derbyshire MP Lee Rowley (@Lee4NED) tells @itvcalendar he HAS submitted a letter of no confidence in the Prime Minister.

EIGHT (and a reminder that this does not include the government ministers who have resigned today, and I'm guessing are not unlikely to put in a letter - I think we are up to eight resignations too).

OublietteBravo, I'm currently pondering whether if I get the washing out the machine whether the government will have fallen by the time i get back.

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Peregrina · 15/11/2018 15:21

This all reminds me of the summer of 2016 when Corbyn's Cabinet was resigning en mass. He's still leader. That's the trouble with these zombie leaders - you can't get rid of them.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 15:22

Things are getting serious:

Sebastian Payne @SebastianEPayne
We’re now up to a ten media gazebo crisis. More as we know it.

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DarlingNikita · 15/11/2018 15:23

Thanks Red.

Gove is stringing along the PM and she's allowing it. How embarrassing.

plaidlife · 15/11/2018 15:23

peregrina I often find posters here raising things several months before the wider press does. DH thinks I am surprisingly well informed!

Sadly my MP is aware of who I am already or I would absolutely be stating that as a leaver I wanted this deal to leave, genius.

tobee · 15/11/2018 15:24

Screenshot from Sky news app:-

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 15:24

Telegraph Politics @TelePolitics
Exclusive: Michael Gove will only become Theresa May's Brexit Secretary if he can renegotiate her deal

Paul Holland @DomaineValescia
That must also mean sacking Ollie Robbins.

Jess Phillips @jessphillips
Jess Phillips Retweeted Telegraph Politics
Michael Gove will only become the Brexit Secretary if he can be the Prime Minister

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DGRossetti · 15/11/2018 15:24

Gove is stringing along the PM and she's allowing it. How embarrassing

He has revenge to wreak ....

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 15:26

(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges
Told 120 MPs will either vote against May or abstain. Benchmark for her survival probably around the 100 mark.

Anna Mikhailova @AVMikhailova
BREAKING: Peers rule NOT to suspend Lord Lester for sexual harassment. The conduct watchdog had recommended a record suspension until 2022 after allegations by campaigner Jasvinder Sanghera. After a 4 hour debate they decided the inquiry was unfairly run.

This looks terrible..

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mostdays · 15/11/2018 15:28

I've run out of ways to express my state of wtf

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/11/2018 15:28

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