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BrexitArmsLandlady · 02/03/2018 20:57

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No kicking off on this thread!!!

Bear has kindly set up another (non-pub) thread, so that leaves this one free for the Brexiteers!!!

Good speech by Theresa May today - onwards to Brexit 🍻🇬🇧

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bearbehind · 05/03/2018 22:08

faith I'm not going to use the 't' word again but you are right back to making a fool of yourself again.

Either I've stated alternative facts, in which case I'm happy to be pulled up on them, or you're talking out of your arse.

I've listed specifics points you can't defend. That's very different to you asking me defend everything I've ever said,

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 22:10

surfer you said

Also, I don’t get why they think the UK is the only racist country within the EU

If you don't mean the UK was racist, what did you mean?

Moussemoose · 05/03/2018 22:10

@surferjet as Faith might say I'm not obliged to answer your demands.

But that would be pointless.

I think the U.K. is significantly less racist than many other countries. Before Brexit we kept a lid on those who were racist, they were too ashamed to speak.

I would not agree that the "U.K. is racist" it does have racist elements however.

Moussemoose · 05/03/2018 22:13

Faith this is the point where you prove Bear is wrong.

She said " What 'alternative facts' have I quoted?" you now link to those facts and she looks silly.

Unless, you can't.......in which case you look silly.

JWIM · 05/03/2018 22:17

I too think the UK is significantly less racist than most, if not all, of the countries I have lived in/visited across 4 continents. I do not agree with the statement the UK is a racist country mainly because the 'ism' is attributable to individual behaviour not something that a 'state' can be.

surferjet · 05/03/2018 22:19

I meant remainers thinking it, hence the use of the word they
I’ve read posts on here from people saying they’re embarrassed to live in the UK now because the world sees us as racist ( does it? ) I’ve read loads of similar posts.
We’ve also got someone who comes on here saying all leave voters are Nazi’s - I could go on & on & on with examples.
So stop playing the shocked innocent, Hmm plenty of your side think there’s a massive racist element in this country.

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 22:20

This isn't really going your way is it surfer?

There's not loads of posters round here but no one so far has said they think 'the UK' is racist.

So what did your comment mean?

JWIM · 05/03/2018 22:20

Anyway Faith, just in case you missed it at the end of p23, just wondered what your thinking is - having identified an EU report that stated that all the required technology elements were available for a virtual border, do you think that virtual border could be in place in just less than 13 months - Brexit date, or by the end of the transition/implementation period - currently working on Dec 2020, or is it an unknown?

TalkinPeace · 05/03/2018 22:29

surferjet
why do you want the UK to be perceived as racist ?
which other countries have you spent time in that you think are less racist?
considering most EU citizens are caucasian, what has race to do with Brexit?
(as Xenophobia and racism are not the same thing)

surferjet · 05/03/2018 22:34

I don’t think the U.K. is racist - it’s probably one of the most tolerant countries in the EU. Remainers are the ones obsessed with racism. Direct your question to them.

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 22:42

surfer you said

Also, I don’t get why they think the UK is the only racist country within the EU

The ‘they’ in that sentence was undoubtedly Remainers.

How can you begin to defend that stating the UK was not the ‘only’ racist country, did not mean that, in your opinion, were are a racist country,

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/03/2018 22:44

How did you twist it into 'Surfer finally admitting that she is actually racist'?

That's the real question.

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 22:49

It’s not ‘the real question’ but for the purposes of this conversation, I’ll answer.

Unless you were actually proud of the fact, I don’t believe anyone would state ‘Also, I don’t get why they think the UK is the only racist country within the EU’

As ever, feel free to prove me wrong.

Any update on my ‘alternative facts’?

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 22:51

Or an update on JWIM question about border technology?

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/03/2018 22:53

Update provided as requested Bear.

You twisted a statement to create an alternative fact.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/03/2018 22:54

CBA to answer JWIM.

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 22:58

You twisted a statement to create an alternative fact.

No I didn’t; anyone who is happy to state the UK is racist must therefore believe that’s true.

How else do you defend that comment?

surferjet · 05/03/2018 22:59

Oh bore off Bear ffs.

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 23:02

CBA to answer JWIM.

Rough translation- I can’t begin to answer that point so I won’t bother as I have absolutely no shame about the fact my comments have no basis in reality

AgnesSkinner · 05/03/2018 23:03

JWIM Dr Katy Hayward from Queen’s Belfast is worth checking out for Irish border options, including the application of digital technology (she was on the Daily Politics earlier today on this subject). If you’re on Twitter she is @hayward_katy

AgnesSkinner · 05/03/2018 23:06

If today’s Daily Politics is available on iPlayer I’d recommend watching it too.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/03/2018 23:10

*You twisted a statement to create an alternative fact.

No I didn’t; anyone who is happy to state the UK is racist must therefore believe that’s true.*

You twisted her comment Bear.
You twisted it into her 'finally admitting she was a racist'.

Nasty.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/03/2018 23:12

*CBA to answer JWIM.

Rough translation- I can’t begin to answer that point so I won’t bother as I have absolutely no shame about the fact my comments have no basis in reality*

Again you twist posts to make your own 'alternative facts'.

Literal translation = can't be arsed to answer JWIM.

Which means: I can't be arsed to answer JWIM. Nothing more, nothing less.

Please stop twisting words to create a new reality Bear.

bearbehind · 05/03/2018 23:16

Give it up fairh. you exert way too much time defending other people’s comments (which are indefencible) when you’d be much better off attempting to defend your own comments.

This discussion thread concept really is poitness if people don’t stand by and explain / support what they say or base their comments in reality.

surferjet · 05/03/2018 23:16

Don’t worry Faith, if she carries on harassing me for hours on end I’ll have to start reporting her.

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