Has anybody changed their mind about how they voted?

[fakenamefornow]

It seems not many people have?

I wanted FoM to end - still do.

I've nothing at all against immigration or immigrants - I am fully aware that immigration is necessary.

I would just prefer immigration to be controlled & equally applied across all nationalities on a needs or family ties basis.

I remain utterly baffled as to why it is racist to worry about the effect of high levels of immigration on a society, and in particular small towns.

I don't think it is. I do however think it's racist to say 'all immigrants should fuck off home' maybe it's just rude, I don't know, what'd you think?

This is more often how I've heard concerns about immigration expressed irl. Don't even get me started on the people I've heard saying they voted out because of all the terrorists/Muslims, (used interchangeably). Now I know people will come on saying same old, same old Leavers aren't racist (I agree, some aren't). But I have yet to hear a single Leave voter say 'you know what, there is a problem with racism within the Leave vote' I have never heard any one of them express even a tiny bit of concern about this, irl or online. I've heard people online (never irl) saying they voted Remain but would change to Leave now because they don't like the way Leave voters have been treated since the referendum. I have NEVER heard a Leave voter say they would now vote Remain because they don't like the way immigrants have been treated since the referendum. I've heard them change sides for other reasons, but not this, the fact Leave appeals to racists don't seem to be of any concern to Leave voters.

Sigh. I voted leave. Biggest mistake ever. I wanted to send a message about TTIP and because there had been an article about the EU not necessarily honouring the concessions Cameron got. I really didn't think leave stood a chance. I know. Stupid reasons.

falcon5

Write to your Mp or TM and tell them. I wonder what they'd write back? Tough?

fakenamefornow

I have said many times that there are some leavers that are racist, I have also said that there are some remainers that are racist and only want immigration for the cheap labour.

If you have ever seen the picking work gangs that have replaced some of the indigenous workforce you will know what I mean.

That's just it. The most racist people I know voted remain, as the slave labour is very beneficial, thanks very much.

The Leave voters I know, including me, are open minded and not remotely racist but had serious concerns about wage deflation and uncontrolled immigration levels.

Go figure!

Weird old world

my experience of leave voters being racist and of remain voters APPEARING not to be racist is exactly the opposite

I think its bloody easy to tell if someone is racist but not so easy to tell if someone if truly not racist

Absolutely - remainers are just angry they can't exploit immigrants anymore.
No more £3.50 an hour for a polish nanny, they'll have to pay an English person the minimum wage now. They're crying into their homemade granola. Hypocrites.

Jeremy Clarkson is a racist buffoon who voted remain, but the plural of anecdote is not data.

I challenge racism if I see or hear it. Always. Facebook however are really lax at removing vile comments, I've reported so many yet get an automated response saying the posts don't breach their community standards It's incredibly annoying.

What a load of rubbish surferjet

Can you not say anything without bringing false stereotypes into it?

Surferjet - stereotyping perhaps? Is it just an English - not Welsh or Scots or Irish - Nanny? Not keen on the rest of the United Kindom?

Facebook however are really lax at removing vile comments, I've reported so many yet get an automated response saying the posts don't breach their community standards

Me too.
Most notably during the election, the Diane Abbot abuse was horrific, but apparently totes ok for fb.

remainers are just angry they can't exploit immigrants anymore.

Lordy what utter tosh.

Some of us are remainers AND immigrants!

Faith it makes me wonder if anyone at Facebook HQ even reads the reports!

Panic not surfer. The au pair system will continue unaffected. It is not - and never has been - necessary to pay the minimum wage to someone who lives in your home as a member of your family, attends college part time etc.

If you are really bothered by this, you should be targeting employer abuse of the domestic workers visa system and/or illegal trafficking of domestic workers. Have a look at the kalayaan website - www. Kalayaan.org.uk

For example -
www.kalayaan.org.uk/news/case-studies/

Mistigri

Some Brexiters are also immigrants!

remainers are just angry they can't exploit immigrants anymore

Yet another remarkable insight into the lengths some Leavers have gone to in their heads in order to justify their 'I'm not racist but...' position.

It's mind blowing really

It's only surfer

What I can't understand is why other leavers never seem to pick her up on her stupid baseless theories.

Because Leavers have been conditioned to never doubt or dispute anything that is said by one of their own.

Brexit is the hysterical left's fault. They screamed 'racist' anytime someone dared say they had an issue with immigration - they tried to shutdown debate but got Brexit instead.
You have to laugh.

A Labour MP who campaigned for refugees - murdered in the run up to the referendum.
Race hate crimes spike post referendum
Prominent remain campaigners receiving rape and death threats online.

Thats not the "hysterical left" and I'm sure as hell not laughing.

Because Leavers have been conditioned to never doubt or dispute anything that is said by one of their own

Oh bugger off bear with your sweeping statements, Surfer can say what she likes on an anonymous forum for adults and unless it's beyond the pale then I for one couldn't give a ha'penny jizz what it is. If I trawled the internet looking for leave voters comments that I disagreed with, with view to policing them, then I'd be a very busy woman. Ain't got time nor the inclination for that shit.

And given that I'm 'on the hysterical left' myself, as it were, I didn't pull her up on that either, It's got fuck all to do with voting leave and more to do with not giving two shits.

The trouble is michael, mine isn't a sweeping statement, its based on repeated behaviour on these threads.

If you want to prove me wrong, could you attempt to critique Boris Johnson's comment about the statement on the bus actually being true.

Do you honestly think there's £350m a week for the NHS?

If you don't, have you questioned his statement?

It was a sweeping statement.

As for repeated behaviour, you're a fine one to talk; you just pitch up to poke people with your stick of condemnation.

You are so self-righteous at times; slamming leave voters as being worse than shit when you were quite happy to fuck the poor, sick and disabled over with austerity on steroids, inhumane health assessments and cruel sanctions. Go polish your halo if you're at a loose end.

The £350 million was quickly debunked as being an erroneous figure. It was a load of bollocks. That's what I think.