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Has anybody changed their mind about how they voted?

746 replies

fakenamefornow · 07/09/2017 09:07

It seems not many people have?

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Manclife · 07/09/2017 20:02

I voted leave (having fully researched both sides) and if the negotiations are watered down such as European courts still having last word then I wish I'd remained. As all we will be getting is the worst of both worlds. So the principle remains however the way it's being handled doesn't fill me with confidence.

LiveLifeWithPassion · 07/09/2017 20:34

I know two people who voted brexit and I've regrets it, one doesn't even though they could be affected detrimentally.
They claim they voted for the ideology and stand by their vote.

LiveLifeWithPassion · 07/09/2017 20:34

One regrets it, that should say.

Corcory · 07/09/2017 20:57

I voted leave and certainly don't regret it. I feel that the process is going to take time and all this conjecture and hand wringing at the moment is pretty useless as we are only just starting to negotiate with the EU, we have no results as such. We will have to wait and see.

PerfectlyPooPoo · 07/09/2017 20:59

I voted remain and would again.

If we are leaving then I wish they'd do it in a way the would make those that voted remain (and I suspect some Leavers too) be filled with some confidence that they have some idea of what they're doing.

WhollyFather · 07/09/2017 21:19

I voted leave and feel even more strongly than I did then that it was the right thing to do. My regrets are that it took the useless May so long to implement Article 50, and that our negotiators seem determined to be decent and reasonable despite the absurd demands of idiots like Barnier and Juncker.

The few remainers I know - I obviously move in somewhat different social circles from many MNers - were mostly idealistic but naive youngsters, who were either upset by the lies of Project Fear (I'm sure some thought they could never visit an EU country again if we left) or swayed by media abuse directed at Brexit supporters as a class, trying to portray us as thick racists, which is nonsense. I don't know if they've changed their minds: they just seem to accept they lost and are getting on with their lives.

And as there is no country called Europe, there is no such thing as European citizenship.

Peregrina · 07/09/2017 21:27

Certain sections of the media, namely the Mail, Express and Telegraph have given Brexiters an extremely easy ride. Unfortunately the Brexit camp does include some racists, egged on by one Farage who was acknowledged as being a fascist even in his schooldays. This is the Farage who is now going to speak at an Alternative fur Deutschland meeting. I'll grant that his obnoxious group were not the official leave campaign, but that is a subtlety that many will have missed.

MaryWortleyMontagu · 07/09/2017 21:41

There is such a thing as citizenship of the European union:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_the_European_Union

It was granted under the Maastricht treaty and affords rights, freedoms and legal protection to its citizens.

YokoReturns · 07/09/2017 21:50

Remain/Remain

PILs voted Leave because they are racist. DH's extended family voted Leave because they're racist.

Sample opinion from DH's family:

'I've been thinking of voting UKIP but I live in Spain for 6 months of the year so I'm generally not in the country when elections take place'.

DH's UKIP-y uncle claims that the reason for the hyper-inflated housing market is 'that London weighting you teachers get'. (I'm a teacher).

I despair of this country and the cliff these people have pushed us off.

FanDabbyFloozy · 07/09/2017 21:55

DH's UKIP-y uncle claims that the reason for the hyper-inflated housing market is 'that London weighting you teachers get'. (I'm a teacher).
That's brilliant!

fakenamefornow · 08/09/2017 07:44

having fully researched both sides

I'm sorry but I just don't think that's possible. I read for your and hours every night for months, I followed both Leave and Remain Facebook pages and read articles linked. I did more reading by miles than anybody else I know. I didn't even scratch the surface of the amount of knowledge you need to make a properly informed decision on this.

My regrets are that it took the useless May so long to implement Article 50,

EU budgets are agreed until spring 2019, I assumed A50 was timed the coincide with this otherwise we'd be paying membership fees while not being members.

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lljkk · 08/09/2017 07:51

The phrase Project Fear amuses me, It felt to me like UKIP had been running their own Project Fear for 24 yrs before 2016.

DrDreReturns · 08/09/2017 10:21

Project Fear is a meaningless phrase to me. What if your fears are justified? Should we just ignore them?
Go on jump off a cliff! But I'll die! Nonsense, that's Project Fear!

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 08/09/2017 10:49

Voted remain

Would do so again

I dont know many people who voted leave but those i do know and those i know voted reamain don't seem to have changed their mind

Bit pissed off that there appears to be such a them and us divide...and stereotypical shit still being bandied about

If i voted tory and was cheesed off about how Corbyn and the left were being potrayed in the press and social media i woukd still not vote fir labour out of 'sympathy'. I do not understand the 'remainer ps are being mean so i would change my vote' bit. I voted for what i thought was the best thing economically (other people may have voted for other reason) i have not changed my mind

YokoReturns · 08/09/2017 11:32

fandabby isn't it? He is a terrible person with insane opinions. I would have loved to be able to buy a small flat in London with all that London weighting - I had to get out of London to have a hope of buying my own place!

Budgiebonbon · 08/09/2017 12:00

I voted Remain, and feel even more strongly Remain.

I feel this is a big mistake, however, I read and read everything I could find as evidence for both arguments & still don't feel I have all the facts. I respect the vote and that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it is being forgotten that 48% of us didn't want this- so should we be having a hard Brexit.

If I had time again I would have been much more vocal and challenged Brexiteers.

My ILs voted leave for mostly the following reasons:-
*Illegal immigrants coming here and stealing fish out of the local carp fishing pond. [humm]
*Migrants coming here and living on benefits and taking all the social housing and using the NHS.
*Migrants coming here and taking all the jobs that 'native' Brits could do.
*That the country doesn't feel 'British' any more and is not the same as it was when they were young.
*That the EU is a dictatorship we have no say in.

They have not changed their minds, though their only information comes from the Daily Fail.

fakenamefornow · 08/09/2017 19:49

I don't know many people URL or online who have changed their minds about their vote but I know plenty of people, both Leave and Remain voters who sincerely wish this referendum had never happened and that it's caused nothing but problems and division. This is exactly how I feel but I voted Remain so might be expected to think that. What about Leave voters, do you all think the referendum was a good thing?

I read some analysts by the BBC who said that the country is basically divided in three by this. One third Remain, one third Leave, one third don't care either way, I expect they're about right on that.

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YokoReturns · 08/09/2017 20:39

I think Brexit has come to symbolise two very distinct ways of seeing the world, which is why people aren't keen to be seen to be shifting sides.

Leavers tend to come from a place of fear: they're scared of the modern world, scared of progress, scared of Brexit getting shelved.

Remainers tend to have a bit more of a handle on the modern world, are doing 'better' out of it, see that the era of the EU has been a generally peaceful and positive one in Europe.

eurochick · 08/09/2017 20:47

I was a fairly lukewarm remain voter. In that I was always going to vote remain, but don't go gooey eyed about the European project. I've worked within one of the EU institutions and my work involves aspects of EU law. I am certainly aware of its flaws, but took the view that it was the least worst option for the uk, and while it exists we would be foolish not to be a part of it.

I am now much more firmly in the remain camp. I actually howled "no" when I woke up to the result. I never expected it. And seeing the pig's ear that is being made of leaving makes me so sad. It is hugely detrimental to the country.

ChocolateFuzz · 08/09/2017 21:07

I live in Northern Ireland where brexit will cause a huge amount of problems and most likely a return to violence. Even after the largest party in the country campaigned for brexit, most people didn't fall for it. I honestly think barely any leave voters considered the effect it would have on us.

fakenamefornow · 08/09/2017 21:50

I honestly think barely any leave voters considered the effect it would have on us.

Completely agree. NI didn't get anything like the attention it deserved in the campaign. I remember watching Question Time once and one of the panel tried to raise the NI issue, Nigel Farage shouted him down and said 'don't you dare raise that' implying that the other panel member was threating violence if the vote didn't go his way (he wasn't). The other panel member did shut up! NF has since go on to threaten actually violence if Brexit is not delivered.

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fakenamefornow · 08/09/2017 21:53

ChocolateFuzz

Why do you think so many people voted in favour of Brexit in NI? The main reason I can think of is that the fall out might lead to a united Ireland but that makes no sense with the DUP.

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Cobblersandhogwash · 08/09/2017 21:59

Remain and remain still.

It's embarrassing how inept our government is in negotiations.

We triggered Article 50 and yet complain the EU is pushing us for faster action. We set the clock going.

And as for the EU being "bullying", the Leave vote means we are out of the club and of course they will close ranks and protect their own interests. What on earth else would they do?

annandale · 08/09/2017 22:04

Remain, no. There are some positives to Brexit, like the beneficial effect on the unity of the 27 and the ability to tell Farage to fuck off [even if the BBC hasn't noticed]. I can also just about believe that DD is not making quite such a pig's ear of the negotiations as is being reported. I believe we will get some kind of ragged deal outo of the process. Surely. I believe there will be some winners, there have to be.

NYConcreteJungle · 08/09/2017 22:06

No regrets.