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It’s a disgrace pupils in Scotland must continue with this farce

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Igorussia · 03/08/2021 19:34

Mask wearing, social distancing. It affects their learning, interaction and it’s gone on for long enough. Enough is enough. It was highlighted that masks are useless against the delta variant unless N95 masks. My children will be exempt from now on. This has been going on for far too long and one of my children has become very badly affected mentally by lockdown. Fuck this.

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Cismyfatarse · 03/08/2021 19:37

Am a teacher (secondary) and I too am totally fed up.

I can go clubbing and invite 100 people to boogie in my kitchen, so why am I wearing a mask and teaching masked teenagers?

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 03/08/2021 19:41

It was highlighted that masks are useless against the delta variant unless N95 masks

Just delta? I’ve seen plenty showing help masks help but nothing that says they don’t work against the delta variant.

Igorussia · 03/08/2021 19:42

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss yep. It was on sky news a few days ago

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FloFlower · 03/08/2021 19:44

Is there a source please for masks being useless please? If that’s the case mine is going in the bin!!

Igorussia · 03/08/2021 19:51

As I said there was a piece on sky news a few days ago about only the N95 masks helping against deltA

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IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 03/08/2021 19:52

The CDC seem to be saying masks are needed a few days ago so I think Scotland are right to continue and I hope ours follow suit. It’s a simple measure in crowded places where SD isn’t possible.

user1487194234 · 03/08/2021 19:53

Disgraceful,it seems like the Scottish Government care about School children
Hopefully the children will remember this at the next election

user1487194234 · 03/08/2021 19:54

Don't care 🤣

Igorussia · 03/08/2021 19:54

16:12

Experts say N95 masks are more effective protection against Delta variant

With the Delta variant being much more transmissible than previous variants, some experts have said we should try upgrading our face masks.

"Delta is so contagious that when we talk about masks, I don't think we should just talk about masks," said Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration, in an interview with CBS.

Linsey Marr, an aerosol expert at Virginia Tech, told The Washington Post that "where a simple cloth mask was helpful before, it's not helpful enough now".

The woven material used in many cloth masks is not as effective at filtering particles as that used to make surgical masks and respirators, Ms Marr said.

While surgical masks are more effective, the N95 respirators can add even more protection as they are designed to fit snugly to the face.

"A surgical mask is just a rectangle and you're trying to pull it to your face," Ms Marr said. "Obviously, our faces aren't in the shape of a flat rectangle, so you inevitably end up with lots of leaks."

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IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 03/08/2021 19:56

That’s no different that why has been known all along …. It doesn’t mean any other masks have no effect or use.

Igorussia · 03/08/2021 19:57

Thankfully many of the parents I know feel the same. The children just won’t be wearing masks.

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NotSonicTheHedgehog · 03/08/2021 19:57

@Igorussia

16:12

Experts say N95 masks are more effective protection against Delta variant

With the Delta variant being much more transmissible than previous variants, some experts have said we should try upgrading our face masks.

"Delta is so contagious that when we talk about masks, I don't think we should just talk about masks," said Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration, in an interview with CBS.

Linsey Marr, an aerosol expert at Virginia Tech, told The Washington Post that "where a simple cloth mask was helpful before, it's not helpful enough now".

The woven material used in many cloth masks is not as effective at filtering particles as that used to make surgical masks and respirators, Ms Marr said.

While surgical masks are more effective, the N95 respirators can add even more protection as they are designed to fit snugly to the face.

"A surgical mask is just a rectangle and you're trying to pull it to your face," Ms Marr said. "Obviously, our faces aren't in the shape of a flat rectangle, so you inevitably end up with lots of leaks."

So that’s not quite the same as “They’re useless”
Igorussia · 03/08/2021 19:59

“It’s not helpful enough “- sounds pretty useless to me.

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newnortherner111 · 03/08/2021 20:03

I'd prefer no large gatherings but at least keep social distancing.

illuyankas · 03/08/2021 20:07

Seriously, while other countries worry about effects of delta, you are happy to expose your children without any mitigation?
Mask wearing and sd don't kill or make children ill, while unlucky children die or get seriously ill with covid.
I hope English school bring back masks in September.

Wakeupin2022 · 03/08/2021 20:10

What social distancing will there still be?

They are doing away with bubbles. Hopefully this will make a big difference to the school pupils.

IcedPurple · 03/08/2021 20:12

@newnortherner111

I'd prefer no large gatherings but at least keep social distancing.
Social distancing is masssively disruptive and makes many businesses unviable. I don't know why people say we should 'keep' it as though it were a trivial thing.
Wakeupin2022 · 03/08/2021 20:13

@illuyankas

Seriously, while other countries worry about effects of delta, you are happy to expose your children without any mitigation? Mask wearing and sd don't kill or make children ill, while unlucky children die or get seriously ill with covid. I hope English school bring back masks in September.
Mask wearing in a busy stuffy classroom cannot be fun.

Many adults struggle with it.

Children in the vast majority of cases are not at risk from Covid. Over 12s who are can now be vaccinated.

We really really need to understand the risks better than this as we are doing more harm to our children than Covid when we can't evaluate the risks properly.

berrylands · 03/08/2021 20:28

We always knew N95 masks protect better.
What part of that article says cloth masks are useless?
It is very irresponsible to mislead people about this.

childcarevouchersargh · 03/08/2021 20:42

@Cismyfatarse

Am a teacher (secondary) and I too am totally fed up.

I can go clubbing and invite 100 people to boogie in my kitchen, so why am I wearing a mask and teaching masked teenagers?

There were threads upon threads on here before about teachers up i arms that students weren't mandated to wear masks, or that they themselves weren't allowed to wear masks whilst teaching. You can choose to go clubbing or have a hundred people in your kitchen. I'm guessing you don't have as much choice as to whether you go to work or not? @Igorussia it's been known from the start that N95 masks were the gold standard. What you're saying isn't accurate at all.
MrsTerryPratchett · 03/08/2021 20:44

This thread neatly outlines the issue with science reporting...

Actual study
CDC dumbs it down for journalists
Journalists dumb it down for readers/watchers
Readers/watchers still misunderstandings

What we need is "masks good. Better masks better". Hmm

berrylands · 03/08/2021 20:54

@MrsTerryPratchett

This thread neatly outlines the issue with science reporting...

Actual study
CDC dumbs it down for journalists
Journalists dumb it down for readers/watchers
Readers/watchers still misunderstandings

What we need is "masks good. Better masks better". Hmm

Maybe puppets?
MrsTerryPratchett · 03/08/2021 20:56

Maybe puppets?

Actual LOL

Igorussia · 03/08/2021 21:01

I think it’s you that are the governments’ puppets! You’re doing a great job of spouting their propaganda.

Luckily these masks are not legally enforceable and they are being binned as I write.

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Bizawit · 03/08/2021 21:04

@illuyankas

Seriously, while other countries worry about effects of delta, you are happy to expose your children without any mitigation? Mask wearing and sd don't kill or make children ill, while unlucky children die or get seriously ill with covid. I hope English school bring back masks in September.
Covid is extremely unlikely to cause serious illness in children. Covid is extremely unlikely to cause serious illness in children. Please for the love of god digest these facts.

Sorry OP, it’s an absolute disgrace. Declare your child exempt Flowers

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