Boris Johnson press conference at 5pm

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Sooner than expected! Wondering what he will say...

@ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule Cheers! What are your plans for your special day?

peston has just teeted it will be from thursday after wednesday vote at parliament

twitter.com/Peston/status/1322562697058226176

and theyre calling it tier 4
ffs

@jacobreesmogadishu

I’m so anxious the idea of a good horror film seems appealingly calming.

what channel / time?

I just read the Peston thing...

Does anyone have any educated guesses what happens if you’re already abroad? I’m due to be away until the 22nd November. Flight home is booked but I’m guessing won’t go if people can’t fly out... bit worried.

Ironically where I am has really low Covid levels, so I’m probably safer here but it’s not cheap; and I imagine flight costs will soar...

@Splodgetastic

I’m afraid I don’t support another lockdown unless they do it fairly. I don’t see why my local high street florist / gift shop should have to close but supermarkets and large online retailers stay open. They could shut absolutely everything if they hadn’t cut the armed forces so much - they might have been able to get basic rations to everyone.

What why do we need to live on basic rations ?

@NorthGirl2

I'm pretty sure the leaks to the press are intentional. All the major national cooperations have inside sources and the press has managed to 'leak' every lockdown before its announced. It's probably to gauge public reaction before the confirmation.

Correct. It's how politics is diner these days.

Why did it change from 4pm to 5pm?

@ivftake1Yes, obviously, but why should supermarkets and online retailers be allowed to sell flowers and gifts? Just shut everything down completely if it’s to be fair.

@kirinm

Peston is saying it's going to be Tier 4. Schools, colleges, unis open. Non essential shops closed, restaurants / pubs close. Outward travel banned, travel within UK for work purposes only.

Even now they're going via fucking journalists. Heaven forbid one of them manages to keep their mouths shut and announces it themselves rather than a journalist mouthpiece.

Sounds about right.... No outbound travel... So basically protecting the conservative voting shires by keeping out people from the towns and cities (by the nature of high density population)...People travelling in (to infect and spread) but residents are not allowed to leave....

Wonderfully cohesive national policy. So effective too. What with the airports open as normal with no proper restrictions.

Pointless. Lockdowns are tough on people. They're worth doing - but only if it's going to worthwhile. Look to Melbourne for a How To guide.

After all this is finished you’ll be lucky to be eating flower bulbs, like the Dutch at the end of the war. We shouldn’t be locking down to save Christmas either. No one saved Eid or Rosh Hashanah, did they?

The rate of infection in secondary school age group is so alarming the way it is increasing.

So if non essential retail is told to close is furlough coming back or what?

@Nostrings457

Why did it change from 4pm to 5pm?

The press conference is now expected at 5pm.

Surely secondary schools should now switch to online learning?

[quote Splodgetastic]@ivftake1Yes, obviously, but why should supermarkets and online retailers be allowed to sell flowers and gifts? Just shut everything down completely if it’s to be fair.[/quote]
Because it's completely unreasonable for a government to tick and cross every supermarkets inventory! Imagine how long that would take

Rule number one - taken from Melbourne's Lockdowns For Dummies guide (let's hope somebody buys a copy for Boris as a Christmas pressie)....

...Key to a successful lockdown, i.e. one designed to properly contain. Don't give people much notice.

Rule number two: Do it properly. Which means non essential travel includes restricted international borders.

@SheepandCow

Rule number one - taken from Melbourne's Lockdowns For Dummies guide (let's hope somebody buys a copy for Boris as a Christmas pressie)....

...Key to a successful lockdown, i.e. one designed to properly contain. Don't give people much notice.

Rule number two: Do it properly. Which means non essential travel includes restricted international borders.

Melbourne is a city, England is a country

@ivftake1 So just shut everything down completely instead and get Army to deliver emergency supplies to anyone who is too weak to survive four weeks without food. Most people in this country have enough reserves in their bodies.

@FreshfieldsGal

Surely secondary schools should now switch to online learning?

They introduced a tiered education system which meant this would happen in areas of lockdown. However, they seem to have forgotten about this, and now the plan is send everyone in like normal and pretend it will all be ok...

So if non essential retail is told to close is furlough coming back or what?

This is what I'm worried about, I'm already on minimum wage and very concerned incase it doesn't and employers can't afford to pay wages.

[quote Splodgetastic]@ivftake1 So just shut everything down completely instead and get Army to deliver emergency supplies to anyone who is too weak to survive four weeks without food. Most people in this country have enough reserves in their bodies.[/quote]
That's it, you've lost it

@Splodgetastic

I’m afraid I don’t support another lockdown unless they do it fairly. I don’t see why my local high street florist / gift shop should have to close but supermarkets and large online retailers stay open. They could shut absolutely everything if they hadn’t cut the armed forces so much - they might have been able to get basic rations to everyone.

And what will you put in my basic rations? Are you ensuring it's personalised?

For those who still think it's 'only the elderly'. The youngest death yesterday was a 26 year old. Lots of under 65s in hospital with it. Fast forward a few weeks of continued no lockdown ...lots of young deaths...due to no more room at the inn aka the hospital. No staff left to care for you in hospital (Non Covid or Covid care). No school staff either. They'll be off sick with Covid, Long Covid, or PTSD. Or dead.