AIBU to think China is lying about its data?

[Ladyks]

Just that really. Noticed on the update that they referenced how China lowered the curve & slowed down the rate of infections & deaths... but I don’t think I’m buying it . What do you think?

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Just the general attitude towards the keeping and killing of animals in general. Wet markets, wildlife or the festivals, the onus isn’t on hygiene and humane methods, and that will never end well. As has been shown time and time again. I saw that having grown up in China - I loved it and all the people I met there but that side of things? I turned vegetarian at the age of 10 after a school trip to a market.

Has anyone on this thread actually watched the report of the independent international experts?

Probably not. It's a fascinating illustration of why people prefer fake news which confirm their own biases over facts that don't. Plus it takes effort and offers no emotional gratification.

Of course, we don't DARE point a finger at anyone these days, do we?

All that medical equipment that China sent to European countries, tests, masks etc, has been revealed to be faulty.

The Netherlands had to recall 600,000 face masks, to take one example.

I don’t believe them.

Of course they’re lying about the data. The reason the world is in this mess is because of their cover up in the first place.

Nope I don’t believe China either or their figures it’s all one big cover up to save face and their economy.

I don’t trust their data at all and I don’t like the way they’re trying to push the blame on to and are discriminating against foreigners. This article made my blood boil.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/china-coronavirus-anti-foreigner-feeling-imported-cases

The WHO were either mugs or incompetent - they spent most of January saying quarantine wasn't necessary and there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission.

Of course they are. It's China. If they were to announce the sky is blue I'd go outside and check.

I don’t think they are pushing the blame on foreigners, rather than they are scared of a second wave of infections coming from people returning.

Singapore & Taiwan I believe stopped travel from China against the advice of the WHO & came in for criticism from China so that was speedy action that stopped an influx of cases.

I don't believe the China figures, yes I think they will be lower than Europe as they can use more draconian measures to enforce lockdown & they could contain it better in areas however why build a new hospital with 1000 beds in 10 days?

@Tellmetruth4..

And let’s not forget the ridiculous claims by Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian that the US military brought the COVID-19 virus to Wuhan.

Chinese Government Spokesmen only parrot the party line. So this was a deliberate attempt by the Chinese regime to shift the blame for the outbreak to the US - in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

But obviously they assess that there enough idiots out there that this blatant lie will be picked up and resonate on social media in the west.

Hang on, since when is calling out a country for lying classed as racism?!

Yes close their borders, we’re alright Jack now you can get on with it. Hopefully if they close their borders we won’t have to buy their plastic crap anymore.

I'm not sure if I believe the figures to be honest.

I saw something maybe a week ago saying that circa 50,000 mobile contacts or signals? had been dropped. Apparently everyone in China has a mobile phone linking their identity to the government and this figure had dropped off some kind of published stats.

I remember thinking that's disturbingly interesting I'll come back to it, but then ended up somewhere else and had forgotten about it until I saw this post. I don't do FB or Twitter or anything like that, mostly forums, discussion groups and articles. I can't remember if it was a comment on a scientific/medical article or in a group so can't track back to it unfortunately.

Don't forget the poor Doctor who blew the whistle (and subsequently died of the virus) - they threatened him, intimidated him, shut him up. They covered it up for weeks.

It should be Contracts not contacts in my post above.

In a population the size of China people will die, and people will buy new phones and so the phones will drop off

China will now recover from this more quickly than any other country, (due to shutting borders), having given the virus to the world. They will emerge as the economic superpower of the 21st century with massive political influence.

It is bad news for liberal democracies.

I hope parliament will stop the Huawei 5g contract, at least.

@DarkPassenger
I am a China resident and don’t have my identity linked to my phone linked to the govt.

You must be an expat then Shanghaidiva

Your post is disingenuous