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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 10:58

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previous thread here

Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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MarshaBradyo · 11/03/2020 13:54

If it’s schools then going to really push Dh to wfh. All in the house then.

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 13:55

Horehound I'm never sure whether the SNP politicians are talking about UK numbers or just Scottish ones

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 13:56

I realised last night, with some sadness, that my affectionate cuddles and kisses with DS, could... at the far worse end scale.. cause problems for us :(

And it saddens me that CV19 came to mind in a millisecond after he'd given me his nighttime smooch.

GuessWhoBoo · 11/03/2020 13:56

@cjt110 if he was to announce that would that be for England or all of the UK.

user1471448556 · 11/03/2020 13:56

Anyone seen that footage of Raab repeatedly coughing into his hands whilst Boris speaks in parliament! No elbow coughing or tissue usage! He does not look well.

FourTeaFallOut · 11/03/2020 13:56

I expect it's going to be a jolly hollysticks, we're all in it together, stiff upper lip, public relations showpiece so that they can say that they did something useful with another reminder to wash your hands.

But I went out and got more milk, eggs and bread in case I'm wrong.

Helenj1977 · 11/03/2020 13:57

What time is today's update from Boris?

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 13:57

BBC News (UK))@BBCNews*

£7bn to support self-employed, businesses and vulnerable people
and £5bn emergency response fund for NHS and other public services

In total, £30bn fiscal stimulus to support UK through coronavirus, says Chancellor Rishi Sunak

http://bbc.in/2IDEZbm

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 13:57

@GuessWhoBoo I don't know? I would think all of the UK but I know there is devolved powers

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 13:58

What time is today's update from Boris? Just after he'd infected The Queen

Number12 · 11/03/2020 13:58

*Rocketmam

I'm also more worried that the statement will be nothing really.

Maybe they'll update the current advuce to: sing happy birthday three times, have a lovely cuppa and check out the cheap cruise prices.*

Don't forget the biscuits! Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 13:58

"It's just a flu" never required £30bn extra from the govt taxpayer

GuessWhoBoo · 11/03/2020 13:59

Ok thank you. Will just have to wait and see fingers crossed it will be for all of the UK.

suspended · 11/03/2020 13:59

how do we know about a statement? where does it say that there's going to be one?

is anyone else slightly glad it has hit a politician so early, in so much as they might actually take it seriously now?

Alone07 · 11/03/2020 13:59

I really hope they will at least let the vast majority schools closed.
My youngest who is at nursery has been poorly with high temperature and cough, has a blue inhaler now to help with it.
Of course with her I can keep her of, my other children I cant unless I get punished.
But if it gets any worse I will be taking them all of, if I get punished then so be it

middleager · 11/03/2020 13:59

Every day we speculate that we might finally get a directive other than "wash your hands". I expect today's announcement will be more of the same.

Look at what they do, not say.
What have they done to stop this spread? What measures have actually been taken?

MarshaBradyo · 11/03/2020 13:59

Tg they are putting that £30bn forward.

SistemaAddict · 11/03/2020 14:00

Much as I love them, having the children here 24/7 will be challenging. On a positive note they will get great use of their Christmas and birthday presents!

defthand · 11/03/2020 14:00

It’s almost time for the daily bullshit update.

I’ll guess 68 cases.

Twixes · 11/03/2020 14:00

I was chatting to myself on the old thread Blush

On gyms, I stopped last week because I had a bit of a cold and was paranoid people might think I had covid if I went. I'm going to stop for the forseeable future, the place is like a sweatbox after a class with perspiration up the walls and all the mirrors steamed up. Gross at the best of times!

I plan on continuing with my fees because it's a small business and I'm sure they need the income.

DressingGownofDoom · 11/03/2020 14:00

2pm. Here we go

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 14:00

If Raab has got it - and he does look ill in that footage - I assume that's Bojo's mop we can see - Then Bojo could have it...

MovinOnUp · 11/03/2020 14:00

@TheGirlFromStoryville I am also thinking about keeping my DC off school regardless of announcements.

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 14:01

UPDATE on coronavirus (#COVID19) testing in the UK:

As of 9am 11 March 2020, a total of 27,476 people have been tested:

27,020 negative
456 positive

6 patients who tested positive for coronavirus have sadly died.

The digital dashboard will be updated later today. t.co/u7CQMWb6wn

Helenj1977 · 11/03/2020 14:01

Didn't he say on Monday they were going to review it today??