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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 10:58

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previous thread here

Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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chillychicken · 11/03/2020 14:01

@suspended The statement is from Hancock to MPs in the Commons at 7pm this evening. Confirmed by Reuters (reliable source)

ScatteredMama82 · 11/03/2020 14:02

456 in UK now

FourTeaFallOut · 11/03/2020 14:02

I was chatting to myself on the old thread

GrinGrin

middleager · 11/03/2020 14:02

Can somebody tell me how many new recorded cases that is please?

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 14:03

Still seeing 324 from yesterday on the [https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england] link

whereareyousleep · 11/03/2020 14:03

I totally understand why many people want the schools to close and I know this shouldnt be what I worry about, but schools closing would be a nightmare for us how would we pay bills if they are closed for weeks at a time either one or both of us wouldn't be able to go to work. So I agree with the facts that as yet they shouldn't close ilu less there is a cluster in a certain area

My work have already told me is that if we are off with a dependant that they won't be paying us even ssp and it would be classed as unpaid leave. I am sure many are in the same position.

Helenj1977 · 11/03/2020 14:03

456... Shit

georgeggg · 11/03/2020 14:03

1215 people
Tested in the last 24hrs

defthand · 11/03/2020 14:03
  1. I was close.

Just 1200 tests done. Ridiculous.

Widen the criteria you **ers!

Alone07 · 11/03/2020 14:03

That is one big jump 'shit' obviously not really unexpected though.

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 14:04

@middleager 132 in 24 hours

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 14:04

It's really ramping up now..

Libertylee · 11/03/2020 14:04

I make it 73 new cases - from 383 to 456

emsy86 · 11/03/2020 14:04

@defthand they have quite clearly said that as of today they will be testing 10000 a day!

Homkaismycat · 11/03/2020 14:04

456 now in U.K.

middleager · 11/03/2020 14:05

Thanks - this statement had better be good after that rise (and that's only tested cases).

Helenj1977 · 11/03/2020 14:05

No more deaths yet which is good though

Homkaismycat · 11/03/2020 14:05

Was not expecting that jump

Alone07 · 11/03/2020 14:06

I am lucky in the sense I am a sahp, I have 2 children with sen and both of them are in at risk groups (both asthmatics one very badly so).

Number12 · 11/03/2020 14:06

Ok so who is seriously thinking or is keeping their kids off school next week.?

I'm wondering because im thinking of doing this next week but im worried of back lash from school, my dh and general view that im totally raving lunatic. Most people this this virus is an over reaction....

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 14:06

This is yesterdays result's:

*10 March 2020

As of 9:00am on 10 March 2020, 324 people have been confirmed as positive for COVID-19*

So it is 132

ScatteredMama82 · 11/03/2020 14:06

@emsy86 is that in the UK that they will be testing 10000 a day? I think the numbers will rocket in that case.

picklemewalnuts · 11/03/2020 14:06

Two interesting screenshots here from Dr John Campbell's videos.

First one is interesting on the numbers.
Second one very reassuring about children.

Though I don't know what order they will post!

worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21
worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21
SistemaAddict · 11/03/2020 14:06

At what point did Italy start taking actual action, not just washing hands?

whereareyousleep · 11/03/2020 14:06

Yesterday's fissure was 373 today 456 so +83