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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 20

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usernameishistory · 10/03/2020 15:57

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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BackInTime · 10/03/2020 18:14

@Lycidas I agree, anyone that make the decision to travel abroad right now has to accept that it comes with risks

alloutoffucks · 10/03/2020 18:14

@Lycidas Our Government has kept saying it is just a mild flu. Maybe they believed them?

RedToothBrush · 10/03/2020 18:15

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/albertonardelli/italian-tourists-stranded-uk-coronavirus-lockdown
Italian Tourists Fear Being Stranded In The UK By Their Country's Coronavirus Lockdown
A "significant number"of Italians visiting the UK have contacted the country's embassy since the COVID-19 lockdown was announced on Monday night.

KOKOagainandagain · 10/03/2020 18:15

No, that's right @Newjez we have not yet reached the point of exponential growth.

But maths says we will unless we radically intervene.

There is enough data to act. Counting the numbers and ignoring trends and what has been learnt along the way is counterproductive.

seasmize · 10/03/2020 18:16

Well that’s something but I wish they’d give us more granular data. I live in Kent, so telling me there are 5 cases there isn’t very helpful.

Also it would be so helpful if they displayed background info and linked cases, as they do in Singapore, so you know if you’re near a cluster and should take precautions.

OldQueen1969 · 10/03/2020 18:17

Sorry to be nitpicking but can anyone else in the BCP area confirm I'm not going mad when I say I thought we had 4 cases, yet all available data is showing 3?

As far as I have observed from local news reports we have had:

Gym bunny
Shoe shop lady
Uni student
Solicitor

(And some SM speculation about a doctors surgery in Wareham that appears unconfirmed).

Anyone else a bit flummoxed?

Freezingold · 10/03/2020 18:18

@Langbannedforsafeguardingkids I’m seriously impressed with Singapore!

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 10/03/2020 18:18

What does BCP stand for? It's bugging me...

magicrainbowbeans · 10/03/2020 18:18

anyone that made the decision to travel abroad right now has to accept that it comes with risks

100% this

All those boasting about it on other boards

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 18:19

UPDATE: France has reported 372 new cases of coronavirus today and 3 new deaths, raising total to 1,784 cases and 33 dead; at least 86 are seriously ill t.co/eUoE2b20hL

Lycidas · 10/03/2020 18:20

@alloutoffucks

Possibly, the messaging has been very weak. But I also think people should surely have grasped that travel right now is volatile, prepare to be quarantined etc. We’ve seen it on this forum, a complete refusal to countenance that normality might be disrupted. Very different from the Brits who were expatriated from Wuhan when it all kicked off, or even the first cruise ship with the Abels.

Saying that my in-laws have just gone to Dubai..

KOKOagainandagain · 10/03/2020 18:20

I mean we have not reached the exponential growth just taking the official figures.

But people are or are not objectively positive regardless of testing.

So there might be exponential growth undetected in the community.

Carlislemumof4 · 10/03/2020 18:21

@colouringinpro Thanks for the Mind link, some great advice and ideas.

NerrSnerr · 10/03/2020 18:21

Just seen a local news article. The local secondary school in our village left for a ski trip to Northern Italy on 6th March and are still over there. Why on earth wasn't it cancelled?

OldQueen1969 · 10/03/2020 18:21

@MangePasTesOnglesVilain

Apologies x Bournemouth, Poole, Christchurch. Our councils recently merged and we are now one big haaaapppppyyyyy family......

NerrSnerr · 10/03/2020 18:22

@MangePasTesOnglesVilain Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole I think.

Tempuserregularposter · 10/03/2020 18:24

@OldQueen1969 from what I understand, gym bunny is either Clark's lady, law person or uni student. Interesting the people that were at the gym on the evening the infected person was there have been told to self isolate.

Furfockssake · 10/03/2020 18:24

I think we are seeing exponential growth. The cumulative numbers just grow slowly to begin with.

www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

Strangely, Italy, Spain etc all had the same numbers of cases at the beginning of February as UK, but UK has managed to keep the number of cases (and deaths) far lower so far. We have obviously done well during the containment phase.

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 10/03/2020 18:24

BCP
Thanks-I learned something new SmileIt just looks like beaucoup bcp in French textspeak..Grin

HairyFloppins · 10/03/2020 18:25

Any know if the French schools are still open?

DonkeyKong2019 · 10/03/2020 18:25

I think the law firm one will be on tomorrow's figures?

@OldQueen1969

wheresmymojo · 10/03/2020 18:25

Never thought I'd agree with Nigel Farage but he's on LBC now saying how the Govt predictions and stance doesn't make sense when looking at the numbers in Italy.

DonkeyKong2019 · 10/03/2020 18:26

The shoe shop one is linked to my kids school 😭

OldQueen1969 · 10/03/2020 18:28

@Tempuserregularposter

That would make sense. Must have skipped that - thank you.

@MangePasTesOnglesVilain

C'est bon :) Et merci aussi :)

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