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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 20

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usernameishistory · 10/03/2020 15:57

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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ofwarren · 10/03/2020 17:46

Greece closes all schools and universities across the country as number of coronavirus cases reaches 89 t.co/eUoE2b20hL

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 10/03/2020 17:48

Grinchly

MNHQ would delete it if you want

NerrSnerr · 10/03/2020 17:49

I think what is most anxiety provoking for many is the unknown. Will people get paid for the different reasons you may need to stop work (children off school, sickness, being exposed etc), paying nursery fees because their insurers won't pay if the nursery closes, not being able to visit family members, when both parents do essential jobs which one trumps the other? Etc etc.

I have stopped thinking about the above because I don't know, I'll spend my time worrying about whether I'll take my 3 year old to the toddler group tomorrow and whether I'll let my children play on the little soft play after swimming lesson.

picklemewalnuts · 10/03/2020 17:50

I smiled wryly, Grinchly. Might be the closest I've been to a smile today, so thanks!

swishthecat · 10/03/2020 17:50

People like YoursTunbridgeWells who cannot control their own anxiety and try to spread excessive fear on the internet should be banned from posting on sites like this during a national crisis. It’s not good for her and it’s not good for anxious people reading it.

I wonder if we should begin reporting the more extreme scare mongering posts?

Lynatic · 10/03/2020 17:50

It's completely normal fight or flight response. Alloutoffucks can't you take a sickie. You just need a couple weeks

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 17:50

NEW: World Trade Organization cancels all meetings through March 20 after one of its staff members tested positive for coronavirus t.co/mX742aI90H

Newjez · 10/03/2020 17:52

@KeepOnKeepingOnAgainandAgain

I sort of do understand exponential growth, hence being quite pleased about the last two days numbers because they are not growing exponentially

Tempuserregularposter · 10/03/2020 17:54

@Grinchlywords I thought it was funny, humour is important in times of crisis!

Lycidas · 10/03/2020 17:54

“ Angry British tourists have accused British Airways of leaving them “stranded” in Italy after it suspended flights to and from the country because of Coronavirus with Ryanair due to follow suit on Saturday, Lisa O’Carroll reports.”

Ffs didn’t they knew this would happen? Sounds like the mumsnetters who refuse to change their holiday plans

NeurotrashWarrior · 10/03/2020 17:54

I smiled wryly, Grinchly. Might be the closest I've been to a smile today, so thanks!

Me too once I'd worked it out

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 17:56

twitter.com/juniordrblog/status/1237436490159923201?s=09

Looking like they are possibly going to be testing people in hospital with no travel history now. This doctor shows the latest advice from the department of health.

TokyoSushi · 10/03/2020 17:57

Thank you!

Bluebutterfly90 · 10/03/2020 17:57

Thanks for the advice people, I will keep taking him out for walks. I know that it's good for us both to get out.
Anxiety is difficult enough, I hope this all ends soon but I know it's going to get worse before it gets better.

Grinchlywords · 10/03/2020 17:57

Ok thanks people. I will leave it up for now, if it brought a few wry smiles...

colouringinpro · 10/03/2020 17:57

another lurker not convinced that UK are testing enough and therefore our stats aren't reliable...

Newjez · 10/03/2020 17:58

@Grinchlywords

I laughed. Isn't that the British way? Finding humour in adversity. You've got to laugh or you'll go insane.

Solitaryconfinement · 10/03/2020 17:58

We are meant to be going to New York next Wednesday for 5 days. I’m actually hoping it will be declared unsafe to travel as I’m now becoming afraid that we’ll be quarantined over there and we have teens at home.
DH is very keen to go, I’ve not broached the subject of cancelling yet as he’ll be adamant we should go and not waste our money.

colouringinpro · 10/03/2020 17:59

Helpful advice for anyone, from MIND, about managing your wellbeing and planning variety in your day if you're self-isolating

www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

Knockalockin · 10/03/2020 18:00

This tweet I find really worrying. I work in healthcare and find that flu season is hard enough, without a two fold increase in patients (at least)

twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538?s=19

Janemarpling · 10/03/2020 18:00

First case in my town. I feel scared. Italy must be terrified. Not being dramatic just saying how I feel.

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 10/03/2020 18:02

I weighed myself today for the first time in months and are am at my heaviest non pregnant weight.

My immediate thought was to cut back a bit so I still fit clothes for an event-but then I'm thinking as I'm normally at the lower end of healthy BMI I could just say an extra half stone is good insurance for if I was unwell for a few weeks.

Anyone else prepping by putting on a few pounds? Grin

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 10/03/2020 18:03

*Jane
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Yes, even though you know it's real it gets more real when it's closer to home. I think that's why some people are struggling to accept how serious this could be.

seasmize · 10/03/2020 18:03

Apparently some of the data for new cases from Lombardy (the worst affected region in Italy) is missing from today’s numbers and will be reported tomorrow morning.

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 18:07

We’ve produced a new #Coronavirus (#COVID19) data dashboard, including new cases and cases by upper tier local authority. We are also working on a mobile-optimised version.

➡️ t.co/CV6X7bFbhA t.co/M1rdYcu6bn

Public health England

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