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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 20

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usernameishistory · 10/03/2020 15:57

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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Delatron · 11/03/2020 09:17

I’ll stop derailing but to say ‘most don’t realise they have the flu’ is wildly inaccurate.

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 09:17

I don't know why you can't see the links. They work for me.
It says 'click here' in blue under the headline

Violetparis · 11/03/2020 09:18

The care home my father in law is in has been put on lock down because of the coronavirus. Not sure if this is connected to a case or a more widespread policy. He's 87 and really poorly Sad

Wehttam · 11/03/2020 09:18

Anyone else freezing their gym memberships? The thought of being in a sweaty room having to touch surfaces makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach right now. FFS I actually enjoy the gym too 😫

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 09:19

Excellent dashboard from Public Health England Star

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 09:19

@usernameishistory
Can you see this?
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gyms-could-coronavirus-hotbeds-big-21671813

I dread to think that some people think I'm not adding links 😱 I really am honestly.
Other people must see them as they comment on the contents.

Sunshinesky1981 · 11/03/2020 09:19

Am considering emailing Savers to say they should put in bold that that hand sanitizer only contains 45% alcohol which is less than the amount needed to kill corona virus. I wonder how many people have purchased it in error or are happily using it assuming they are protected. Feel that at this time where people are so scared company's should be completely transparent about the effectiveness of products they are selling, rather than happily taking money

MarshaBradyo · 11/03/2020 09:19

Ds uses the gym, annoying to stop as he likes it and it’s a good break.

Delatron · 11/03/2020 09:20

Shouldn’t Boris be self isolating?

LarkDescending · 11/03/2020 09:20

Has Dorries attended COBRA coronavirus meetings?

buttermilkwaffles · 11/03/2020 09:21

Lancet article on mitigating COVID19 mobile.twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1236321986122375168

Horehound · 11/03/2020 09:21

I see your links @ofwarren

ToughGuy · 11/03/2020 09:23

Do I hear correctly on Sky News? Boris has been exposed via Nadine Dorries and he is going to meet the 93 year old Queen later? What the actual fuck is wrong with people? Did IQs just drop suddenly? Hmm

LarkDescending · 11/03/2020 09:23

The first Indonesian death is of a British woman (in Bali) per BBC live thread.

1happyhippie · 11/03/2020 09:23

ofwarren
Your links are showing for me

CrunchyCarrot · 11/03/2020 09:24

I see the links, too. I suggest if anyone can't see them, they try another browser and/or make sure their software is up to date.

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 09:24

Wehhtam I'm still going to the gym 6 days per week,
but unlike you, I don't have any family to worry about

So far, the advice here is to avoid big crowds, but nothing about small businesses like gyms and restaurants etc
Attendance is a bit down;
there are handgel dispensers on the walls at the gym and people are using them

There was a doctor on Cosmo commenting on gyms who said the virus could not be passed via sweat, but he wasn't an specialist on viruses, so I'm being careful

Oldmrswasherwoman · 11/03/2020 09:24

Violet - the care home my Grandma is in has banned visitors also. Last week we were allowed with masks. I am glad as she has lung cancer and dementia so would be highly unlikely to get any treatment.

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 09:26

Have lost the Guardian live feed again... Anyone got the link?

Many thanks.

Hope you are all well

Mary1935 · 11/03/2020 09:27

What time are numbers updated please. I thought it was 9am?

usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 09:27

Oh no ofwarren

I said its the source that you link to that I wondered if you could share.

I'm sure everyone sees your links, we really would have known by now if not Shock

I was picking and choosing which sources I bother to follow up on.

So yes, I see the direct link (source/attached link) that you just poste,but you dont always mention or post that.

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1happyhippie · 11/03/2020 09:27

The numbers are released around 2pm each day

onalongsabbatical · 11/03/2020 09:28

@ToughGuy beggars belief, doesn't it? I'm no royalist but I hope someone's got the wisdom and power to protect her from further contact with, well, anyone for a while.

WaterSheep · 11/03/2020 09:28

Boris has been exposed via Nadine Dorries and he is going to meet the 93 year old Queen later?

If true then I hope someone steps in to stop this, how fucking stupid can you get. Shock

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 09:28

Also, do any of you very knowledgeable folks know if you can get CV19 again after having it once? Just a question my husband asked this morning. IIRC they are testing to see if that's the case?

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