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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 20

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usernameishistory · 10/03/2020 15:57

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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WaterSheep · 11/03/2020 08:50

it's been removed from many others, and the story seems to be now that she's been self isolating since Friday.

I really hope that's the case, and fingers crossed the surgery was cancelled.

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 08:51

Gyms 'could be coronavirus hotbeds as big blokes may be super spreaders'
t.co/S6AF3ittkD t.co/g0ZhYl5EpH

usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:53

They have been following their own advice which is something.

Now the reaction is, get everyone tested.

I can't recall on what day test would be positive.

Shouldn't she have had a follow up test to confirm?

Govt rulings say carry on, unless you have had contact with infected other from say Italy.

Not my course of action but what I imagine all in govt have to do, follow the rules.

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Tempuserregularposter · 11/03/2020 08:53

But if she only felt ill on Thursday it is disingenuous to suggest she is recovering, many articles show that it takes 7 days for the worst symptoms to develop.

DressingGownofDoom · 11/03/2020 08:53

@LittleRen oh dear 😬 that's why it hasn't all sold out then

Comenext · 11/03/2020 08:54

@usernameishistory
I mean this link:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Is Wales on there at all?

usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:55

Can I check the source on that one ofwarren please? 'big blokes' Shock.

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:56

Ah that is not the UK one, thats england

Is it a link in the OP as I can just change it?

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WaterSheep · 11/03/2020 08:58

But if she only felt ill on Thursday it is disingenuous to suggest she is recovering, many articles show that it takes 7 days for the worst symptoms to develop.

That's a good point. I don't wish her to become unwell, but a few days isn't enough time to determine that she is recovering. At this point in time the symptoms could just as easily get worse.

cologne4711 · 11/03/2020 08:59

I think the point people are making is it’s extremely common for people with a cold to say they have “the flu” so when they haven’t had the actual flu (in a bad way) they aren’t concerned when everyone is saying CV is “just the flu

Precisely this.

LittleRen · 11/03/2020 08:59

@DressingGownofDoomI Ialso found a pepper pig sanitizer in stock and got excited but it was alcohol free!!

I did buy two big medex sanitizers weeks ago from Savers when it all first kicked off and now they are sat in the cupboard unused, so that's how I knew!

WaterSheep · 11/03/2020 09:01

Bank of England now making a statement on BBC.

Blueberryham · 11/03/2020 09:01

I am feeling kind of anxious today that it is progressing so fast. Think I may need to stop checking news so much. I still have people on Facebook pointing out it is only the old and sick that die and it’s driving me mad

emsy86 · 11/03/2020 09:06

If the Italians were so desperate for Europe to take action they would be letting news cameras into the hospital (while the camera men with in hazmat suits) to prove to everyone that it is as bad as they were saying.

I will not believe any videos doing the rounds on social media they have absolutely no merit..

usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 09:09

comenext
I haven't looked on the welsh gov site, or public health Wales to see a link. Please do post it and I'll put it up.

Also theres links on bno and the worldmaps

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Horehound · 11/03/2020 09:09

First case detected on oil rig.

www.energypeople.com/news/story/breaking--first-case-of-coronavirus-confirmed-offshore-in-north-sea

Not sure if already been said on here

Exochord · 11/03/2020 09:09

they say if our children can't attend because they are self isolating they will credit us with free sessions to take at a later date. If the children are actually ill then we won't get the free credits
That’s stupid. So the children self isolate and if they don’t come down with COVID19 you get free sessions, but if they do have symptoms you get no free sessions. Surely that’s just encouraging people to lie about their children having symptoms?

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 09:11

Honduras reports first 2 cases of coronavirus t.co/eUoE2b20hL

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 09:11

"If the Italians were so desperate for Europe to take action they would be letting news cameras into the hospital (while the camera men with in hazmat suits)
to prove to everyone that it is as bad as they were saying."

Italy is concerned with its own crisiis
It is not responsible for telling other governments what to do

It's the responsibility of other govenments to check what is happenng in Italy and decide what lessons can be learned

  • the UK embassy and consulate staff would probably be doing this and reporting back .... but I doubt if they would go so far as donning hazmat suits
usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 09:12

This

www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

Which is the new UK dashboard is going up next thread on the OP

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ofwarren · 11/03/2020 09:13

@usernameishistory
Do the links to the news sources I post not come up for you? Are you on a phone?
There is a daily mirror link attached.

usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 09:15

Its currently showing wales 6

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 09:16

I can't see what link its attached to no

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anonacfr · 11/03/2020 09:17

Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the whole Cobra team be in self-isolation as they have all had direct contact with a Coronavirus patient?
They are now reporting that one of Dorries' staff is sick...

LarkDescending · 11/03/2020 09:17

Watching the Bank of England statement. Mark Carney is so impressive. He leaves the job next week (16 March)..

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