Coronavirus thread 13

[KenAdams]

Previous thread here.

We are using Worldometer, BDO and Dr John Campbell videos as part of the discussions.

Well, it's a lot less than yesterday's increase so could be worse ...

Motorina's post on the last thread about WHO mild / "moderate" for 80% was really informative & important:

The WHO / public health definition of "moderate" seems completely different to the layman's - WHO mean pneumonia !

So 80% suffering mild / "moderate" illness is leading to false complacency

The statistics for people who have COVID-19:

40% mild
40% "moderate" = pneumonia
13.8% severe disease = need oxygen
6.1% critical = will die without very extensive hospital care (almost all who die will be from these)

So that is 115 in England, 6 in Scotland and 1 each in NI and Wales? Is that right?

The numbers who are not recent travellers are slowly creeping up.

i made it 30 from yesterdays announcement which was 85
?

What's significant is the 8 which are non-travel related. If they aren't related to each other that's a different picture.

There is a regional breakdown but tomorrow at 2pm there will be a chart showing actual towns and cities

The numbers are probably low due to the lack of testing unless you have been to any of the high risk areas. 111 aren't interested in anyone unless they've been to the hotspots from what people are saying.

It was about 87 at the end of yesterday, wasn’t it? So 115 by 9am today is not a whole day’s worth?

Isn't it 30 new cases in England?

There were 85 yesterday.

Sorry my 25 jump was from the 90 we already knew including scotland.

Also need to know if they are found in the patients sampled as part of the serological survey or the ITU testing.

so where are these?

Cases have risen to 115, 25 of them in London....

Sorry, that comma makes that figure looks scary, it should read 115 cases of which 25 are in London.

8 new cases just out there in the wild with no link to someone who has travelled abroad made is a worry. How many does that make of that type of patient it in total?

No, it is 25 more in England. They have 2 sets of figures which is confusing me...

oh. I dont like the sound of that, I mean a densely populated area with the tube etc.......

25 in London, that won't take long to increase. Husband works in CW and I am beginning to hope they start suggesting WFH for all

DH's firm definitely preparing for it. Sent an email today about sharing IT resources and asking who had decent laptops at home they can use, so they can lend firm laptops to those who don't. He's not in CW but has to use the tube to get to work.

bigchocfrenzy I agree I have said before I think that is part of the issue with saying flu like symptoms. I see moderate as being like severe flu/mild pneumonia which is far more than people are seeing. That can knock you out for 2-3 weeks and take a few months to get over completely

I'm breaking out the credit card to do the final store cupboard shop tonight I think. Time to get serious.

And, more importantly, where the fuck are they?

@Faybian
I am a current mature student. If the staff are chit-chatting to you about admissions it's highly unprofessional of them to do so. I have asked about admissions (for a very specific reason) and that's not what I've been told.

In any case, people reading this thread shouldn't rely on anecdotal evidence.

What's significant is the 8 which are non-travel related. If they aren't related to each other that's a different picture. Where does it say 8 are not travel related - I can't see it...?

So this is the UK data

here

And this is the England update

here