Coronavirus thread 13

[KenAdams]

Previous thread here.

We are using Worldometer, BDO and Dr John Campbell videos as part of the discussions.

Justchecking unless one of the 100 do you mean? Or do you mean outside of the 100 surgeries testing?

I don't understand, username?

What I'd like to see is a list of positives for people who meet the criteria to request a test themselves, so eg x/450 tested positive via calling 111 and being tested.

Then eg y/650 people tested positive after being randomly tested via the sentinel GP and ITU testing of all people who attend with flu symptoms or who have pneumonia.

The second numbers are far more important as they will tell us how far community spread has progressed.

We've been told the sentinel tests are starting but not when they will start or if they have started already and not what results they're throwing up. It's so frustrating knowing data is being collected but not shared!

Since many of the new cases are catching it in the U.K. now, surely it’s time to broaden the testing criteria? Otherwise we are going to miss lots of cases...

It looks as though it as reached Cornwall although they are not saying which bit of the county. Link here.

“ WHERE in London are those 25?!”

I’m a Londoner too. Why would you want that information? We’re using the Tube, we’re working with people who commute. What use would that information be?

'' enjoy your journey, planes are cleaned regularly and professionally ''

It's utter hogwash like this that worries people.

How many of you have Been on an easy jet turn around, clearing out our rubbish whilst the next passengers are waiting to board?
Umm where is the regular safe professional cleaning please to remove that stubborn covid virus, enjoying life on an arm rest?

Enjoy the flight.... Fuck off.

Countries with counts higher than ours:

China *80,430 total/+160 (new)
3,013(total deaths)
+32(new deaths)
25,158 (Active)
52,259(total recovered)
5,952 (critical)

S. Korea 6,088 +467(new) 40 +5 5,913 135 52
Iran 3,513 +591 107 +15 2,667 739
Italy 3,089 107 2,706 276 295
Diamond Princess 696 6 478 212 35
Germany 444 +182

@Delatron it would be good to know, but essentially I don't think it matters if they miss people at this point. We may miss cases, but we’ve moved, or are moving out, of the containment phase so they’re expecting a huge number to get it 🤷‍♀️ I think we just brace for impact, and assume in two weeks it’s going to be everywhere.

the travel editor on bbc news is dreadful. Still persuading everyone to travel as much as possible. 'A wonderful time to be a traveller....' 'it is not a significant risk'

@FaisPasCiFaisPasCa Simon Calder is always like that 🤣 ultra positive

Justtesting
I was makit reference to the testing figures you quoted and where they came from, as in, are these the 100 testing surgeries? Or did you mean what you quoted was in addition to the 100?

Even with the crap testing mechanism we have, I don't think the numbers are that high today.

I felt this week would be very telling, half term returns.

I did read somewhere that the brits hands off greeting could be going in our favour ie rather than the kissing on cheeks etc favoured by our continental cousins.

Re Boris and the letting it run rampant comment. I thought the context was that there was '' some of thought '' by medics that that's one option but Boris doesn't agree and feels this step approach is better because of the NHS.

So frustrating we dont have exact locations

Fais

It was the clean plane comment that irked me

it would be good to know, but essentially I don't think it matters if they miss people at this point. We may miss cases, but we’ve moved, or are moving out, of the containment phase so they’re expecting a huge number to get it 🤷‍♀️ I think we just brace for impact, and assume in two weeks it’s going to be everywhere.

We still need accurate figures though. If not, we'll have no idea when we've reached the peak or when numbers are starting to decline.
We also need location figures in order to better plan distribution of NHS services.

I would like to know where in Wales. Are they releasing that info tomorrow ?

Also where in greater London.

You only find what you're looking for.

We're only looking for symptomatic travellers and their contacts and that's what we're finding.

Not even symptomatic contacts of travellers, according to justchecking.

But Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the government's scientific advisory group for emergencies (Sage) had told him that closing schools and stopping big gatherings "don't work as well perhaps as people think in stopping the spread".
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He told ITV's This Morning programme: "One of the theories is perhaps you could take it on the chin, take it all in one go and allow the disease to move through the population without really taking as many draconian measures. I think we need to strike a balance."*
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Mr Johnson said it would be "business as usual" for the "overwhelming majority" of people in the UK.*

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51749352

I think this says it all.

@SirVixofVixHall Wales case is Cardiff confirmed on wales online

New York: 11 new cases of coronavirus in Westchester County and 2 new cases in New York City, mayor says - WABC

I don't think it's not Dorset yet!

Who is we... When you say we need to know location location figires to plan services...are you NHS planning?

I'm not sure what 'we' [populace] do with location information

How would we /should we change our behaviours?

The man on sky news.

Said there is a '' spark '' it's Likely this is why gov been cautious because we will see significant numbers soon.

@DonkeyKong2019 that is where I am and I haven't heard anything. It seems around us but not hit here yet.

Yes I want accurate figures. Like other countries release. So Italy is 3,029. They don’t just go ‘oh it’s everywhere let’s not test people. It’s roughly a few thousand!
Even China contributed to release figures.

That information is important to track the spread and how the disease is progressing/spreading.

This is my worry, that it is the government’s tactic with only testing people who have been to affected areas. When we know know there is person to person transmission in the U.K. now.