This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 3)

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/15/babies-children-gaza-famine

Continuation of the previous thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5018751-this-is-the-reality-of-what-israel-is-doing-part-2?page=39&reply=134623626

What the f*ck did I just watch...

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If his account is true it is abuse far beyond anything I and many could even have imagined. I guess, if there was any doubt, it confirms how Palestinians are viewed and treated, as animals. I would seriously question the mental state of anyone that would do this to another human being, absolute monsters.

This is so horrible, but is it possible? I have always had dogs, and don’t quite know how a dog would just do this if they had not been trained specifically. But if the IDF have (abused) rapist dogs wouldn’t we have heard more of it?

It's taken from a longer video where people were interviewed by Journalist Abby Martin.
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I don't know.

We do know that they torture detainees including sexual torture so whether this latest allegation is true or not it doesn't change that they use torture against detainees, many of whom are innocent civilians.

Thank you very much, @BelleHathor
I watched all of that and it certainly gives a much rounder picture of those Israeli views and how those interviewed come to think as they do. I appreciate you finding that full video to post. Thank you too @ConnieCounter for the earlier short clip.

I wonder if the left-wing man she interviewed, who sympathises with Palestinians and considers they live under apartheid, would consider Jewish Voice for Peace to be ‘sugar -coasters’, or would they be in agreement with him?

I was thinking of them as examples of alternative voices. They seemed impressive and brave to me in how they were standing up to settlers who were sabotaging the aid trucks.

I meant to write ‘sugar-coaters’, a phrase the left wing man used about some Israelis.

No, it doesn’t change that fact.

It would add an additional layer of complete depravity though if it is true.

He was truly brave, especially as speaking out can get you targeted.

There are Israelis who see the disaster that this current course of action will lead to and want to stop it not because they care about Palestinians, but because Israel has lost its international standing/reputation and they want it to return to the Status Quo pre October 7th.
These would be the sugar coaters, they will dangle the prospect of a 2 state solution and Palestinian rights whilst occupying the land and it's always sometime in the future. It allows them to lie to themselves that they're moral, not like those evil right wingers Netanyahu and Gvir.

I forgot, the left wing also participated in the Nakba
https://www.soas.ac.uk/about/event/colonizing-palestine-zionist-left-and-making-palestinian-nakba

This is the testimony of the injured Palestinian man that was being used as a human shield by Israel.

www.instagram.com/reel/C8mIwR8I1Tb/?igsh=dWd3N3p0djJnc2M0

Thanks @anotherlevel there is a thread about this incident so I’ll post it in there

Thanks @EasterIssland I wasn’t aware.

Complete depravity that has been used as a torture method before under Pinochets rule in Chile. (Can't believe I'm typing that).
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/democraciaabierta/sale-of-venda-sexy-torture-centre-highlights-chiles-struggle-for-historical-memory-regarding-sexual-violence/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Olderock

To think that happened. It is from hell.

It's not even 8am and I already feel like that's enough internet for today.

Absolutely barbaric. IDF set a dog on a sleeping Palestinian woman.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8pqJAGqrej/?igsh=N2lwN2FrbHJpN3p4

I was just coming on to post the same thing.

The most moral army everyone.

I saw that on the news and it included her telling of her ordeal.

She is a tiny, very old Palestinian woman.

She was told to get out of her house. She refused. She was asleep in her bed when they sent in the dog. The dog grabbed her and dragged her out of her bed, all through the house, and out the door. You can see her upper right arm is all bandaged. Imagine her terror.

It was barbaric.

How on earth does the news have the dog’s body cam I wonder?

I imagine the footage has been leaked by the IDF.
From the intelligence agents and former diplomats that speak on this, there is a growing divide between the military and political wings in Israel. There are units that are refusing to continue fighting due to fatigue, horror at what they've been ordered to do etc. This is the longest war that Israel has ever fought. Some soldiers have even moved their families away and will not return once released from duty. The deaths and casualties are also far higher than reported (haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-10/ty-article/.premium/idf-reports-1-593-wounded-since-october-7-but-hospital-data-is-much-higher/0000018c-552d-df4b-a78e-d52f47).

Netanyahu will sacrifice anyone to retain his power and some in the IDF are unhappy with this, hence Hagari's statement recently about not being able to defeat Hamas.

UN Special Committee on Israeli practices in occupied territories concludes field mission

it was horrified by violations against Palestinians in Israeli custody and levels of impunity for Israeli soldiers engaged in dehumanising, cruel and humiliating behaviour towards Palestinians, including women and children.

Multiple stakeholders reported a stark increase in sexual harassment, sexual abuse, the threat of rape, and rape itself, including with foreign objects, against men, women, and even children

The occupation of Palestine, and the apartheid system of injustice that serves it, cannot continue if there is to ever be a lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians,” the Special Committee said.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/06/un-special-committee-israeli-practices-occupied-territories-concludes-field#:~:text=“The%20occupation%20of%20Palestine%2C%20and,General%20Assembly%20in%20October%202024.

@EasterIssland it’s grim, and there is no need for these people to be put in such vulnerable positions.

How can anyone possibly defend the rape of women, men and children?