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EasterIssland · 16/05/2024 11:54

From the tweet

Gaza city | Warning ( )

Extremely shocking footage showing the execution of unarmed civilians by Israeli forces. I obtained the scenes from a social media account of an Israeli soldier from the paratroopers brigade.

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1790893499115606334

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1790893499115606334

ScrollingLeaves · 16/05/2024 13:01

PeasfullPerson · 15/05/2024 21:32

Change can’t come soon enough.

‘Yoav Gallant, who Benjamin Netanyahu tried to fire in 2023, says he will not allow Israeli rule of Gaza.’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/15/israel-war-cabinet-split-looms-as-defence-minister-demands-plan-for-post-war-gaza

Let us hope it is change in the direction of Gallant’s view though, and not just a change leading to Gallant being got rid of.

Gallant’s comments provoked an immediate political row, with Netanyahu pushing back rapidly with a videotaped statement and a call from the far-right national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, for Gallant to be replaced.

TheABC · 16/05/2024 13:44

Perhaps one day there will be Israelis in Gaza - under a Palestinian administration in line with their rules. Not like this.

Until there is a defined Government speaking up for Palestinians territories with defined borders and legal processes, the fanatics will take advantage of the grey areas to push their agenda.

I appreciate the Gazans are not in a position to do anything except survive at the moment and parts of the West Bank are locked down.

DomPom47 · 16/05/2024 17:21

Where’s the petition for me to sign to give Netanyahu the Nobel Peace Prize?

He is telling the world in perfect English, slowly and clearly there will be no two state solution, Palestinian occupation will continue, we know for a fact that the settlements will continue ….oh but these will only carry on once he’s killed as many innocent Palestinians as possible as collateral after killing embers of Hamas too.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7B1HOdJTds/?igsh=MWk5Y3R2eTVzOWR6dw==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7B1HOdJTds/?igsh=MWk5Y3R2eTVzOWR6dw==

Dulra · 16/05/2024 17:23

DomPom47 · 16/05/2024 17:21

Where’s the petition for me to sign to give Netanyahu the Nobel Peace Prize?

He is telling the world in perfect English, slowly and clearly there will be no two state solution, Palestinian occupation will continue, we know for a fact that the settlements will continue ….oh but these will only carry on once he’s killed as many innocent Palestinians as possible as collateral after killing embers of Hamas too.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7B1HOdJTds/?igsh=MWk5Y3R2eTVzOWR6dw==

Yes it's a mystery why people keep claiming this is not the Israeli governments intent when they literally keep saying it

EasterIssland · 16/05/2024 17:27

Interesting he says it’s no good for Palestine , no good for Israel no good for the world no good for America.

what does America have to do with this ? What investments does it have for a 2 state solution is not good for them. Why do they have a word in that part of the world ?

DomPom47 · 16/05/2024 17:48

Let’s not be surprised if Gallant ends up with a mysterious illness and dies or is openly assassinated for going against the views of this fascist evil Israeli government
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7B_bLeOxVz/?igsh=MW1ra3ZtY3IzbzcxbQ==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7B_bLeOxVz/?igsh=MW1ra3ZtY3IzbzcxbQ==

Factsareimportantplease · 16/05/2024 18:29

EasterIssland · 16/05/2024 11:54

From the tweet

Gaza city | Warning ( )

Extremely shocking footage showing the execution of unarmed civilians by Israeli forces. I obtained the scenes from a social media account of an Israeli soldier from the paratroopers brigade.

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1790893499115606334

No idea who that is, whether armed or not, could be anywhere or any date and anyone. The trouble with randem tweets from x there is no checking anything. So many tweeted and share that don't really establish anything 🤔

People are dying and random videos which are impossible to make out are a bit pointless really.

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 18:48

It appears to be a legitimate account - this reporters work has been used as evidence by SA legal team at the ICJ

BelleHathor · 16/05/2024 19:20

Yes, in the hearing today at the ICJ South Africa presented videos uploaded by IDF soldiers to their Social Media where the soldiers filmed themselves committing acts that could show genocidal intent/actions.

There are Telegram groups who are monitoring Social Media for similar videos, verifying them and then archiving content.

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 19:22

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 18:48

It appears to be a legitimate account - this reporters work has been used as evidence by SA legal team at the ICJ

Images are from IDF drone footage and IDF soldier bodycams which will be time and date stamped and can be geo-located

None of the men appear armed - not carrying automatic weapons or any larger weaponry

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 19:55

I agree, that this footage could have been taken anywhere in any war zone, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq as it is unverified.

Distasteful as it is, it doesn't prove anything.

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:00

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 19:55

I agree, that this footage could have been taken anywhere in any war zone, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq as it is unverified.

Distasteful as it is, it doesn't prove anything.

Tripe indeed

See above for proven verification and evidentiary value

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:09

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Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:11

BelleHathor · 16/05/2024 19:20

Yes, in the hearing today at the ICJ South Africa presented videos uploaded by IDF soldiers to their Social Media where the soldiers filmed themselves committing acts that could show genocidal intent/actions.

There are Telegram groups who are monitoring Social Media for similar videos, verifying them and then archiving content.

So can you please indicate where this was shown at the ICJ hearing today

I have watched the whole recording but have not seen any such submissions.

PeasfullPerson · 16/05/2024 20:12

I didn’t realise the hearing was going to last two days.

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:15

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 19:22

Images are from IDF drone footage and IDF soldier bodycams which will be time and date stamped and can be geo-located

None of the men appear armed - not carrying automatic weapons or any larger weaponry

So where can this be seen?

And where in the hearing was was such material introduced?

I did not see any recordings introduced as evidence by SA

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:18

It's IDF bodycam footage - don't think there are any IDF foot soldiers in Syria Afghanistan or Iraq?

It's been proven to be in Gaza and can more than likely be pin-pointed exactly where in the territory

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:21

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:15

So where can this be seen?

And where in the hearing was was such material introduced?

I did not see any recordings introduced as evidence by SA

Look at tweets further down the reporters twitter account

He's obviously proud his material has been used as evidence at ICJ

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:21

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:18

It's IDF bodycam footage - don't think there are any IDF foot soldiers in Syria Afghanistan or Iraq?

It's been proven to be in Gaza and can more than likely be pin-pointed exactly where in the territory

If it is IDF bodycam footage how is it in the hands of civilians?

And when was this submitted to the court?

I watched the whole hearing and saw no such evidence presented.

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:24

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:21

Look at tweets further down the reporters twitter account

He's obviously proud his material has been used as evidence at ICJ

I can;t see it as I don't have a twitter a/c.

So which SA lawyer introduced it as evidence, and at what stage of the proceedings?

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:24

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:21

If it is IDF bodycam footage how is it in the hands of civilians?

And when was this submitted to the court?

I watched the whole hearing and saw no such evidence presented.

Did you not read what @BelleHathor said before you questioned her post?

Also footage can be obtained from searching dead soldiers and downed IDF drones

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Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:30

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:24

I can;t see it as I don't have a twitter a/c.

So which SA lawyer introduced it as evidence, and at what stage of the proceedings?

I'll try to post it for you

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1791132267667919140

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1791132267667919140

Tripeandonions · 16/05/2024 20:33

Efacsen · 16/05/2024 20:30

OK, so what does it prove?

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