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Auvergne63 · 29/02/2024 15:42

Why do people still defend the IDF/Israeli government? What do they need to do to the Palestinians before they admit to themselves that they are supporting evil deeds? When will it be enough?

Efacsen · 29/02/2024 15:44

An UNWRA driver was badly beaten last week

Sadly this was all predicted - Israel was warned about this months ago [see upthread]
and ignored the warnings

stomachamelon · 29/02/2024 15:54

@Efacsen I didn't say that did I?
I literally said 'I am not saying the IDF didn't fire'

www.timesofisrael.com/masked-men-in-gaza-enforce-prices-in-street-markets-amid-aid-crisis/

Efacsen · 29/02/2024 15:59

stomachamelon · 29/02/2024 15:54

@Efacsen I didn't say that did I?
I literally said 'I am not saying the IDF didn't fire'

www.timesofisrael.com/masked-men-in-gaza-enforce-prices-in-street-markets-amid-aid-crisis/

It was ambiguous to say the least

And yes more consequences of starving a population - as predicted

LilaDidIt · 29/02/2024 16:03

Efacsen · 29/02/2024 15:44

An UNWRA driver was badly beaten last week

Sadly this was all predicted - Israel was warned about this months ago [see upthread]
and ignored the warnings

They know exactly what they're doing.

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Efacsen · 29/02/2024 16:11

Hah @Eyesopenwideawake you're psychic - was just about to ask if a new thread was needed

Tho' awful to think what the next 20 pages will bring Sad

Lilz0991 · 29/02/2024 17:10

Parkingt111 · 29/02/2024 12:05

Does anyone know if there are any initiatives or charities that are focusing on getting baby formula into Gaza?
That's one of the reasons babies are dying, the mothers are too malnutritioned to nurse them and there is a lack of formula milk

Gaza kinder relief had a specific milk iniative with their fundraising partners. It's not UK based though so might get hit with a transaction fee, but its the only one I've seen so far.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3296zpLX9N/?igsh=MTh3eThyaDM2MHV6dw==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3296zpLX9N?igsh=MTh3eThyaDM2MHV6dw%3D%3D

Parkingt111 · 29/02/2024 17:56

@Lilz0991 thank you so much, I will look into it.

EasterIssland · 29/02/2024 18:00

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This is the reality of what Israeli is doing.
ConnieCounter · 29/02/2024 18:03

EasterIssland · 29/02/2024 18:00

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Absolute scumbags.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 29/02/2024 18:21

39, 035 dead is "probably an underestimate ". WHO, quoted tonight on BBC news. You can add the extra 100 today, for a start.

FOJN · 29/02/2024 18:39

Efacsen · 29/02/2024 15:44

An UNWRA driver was badly beaten last week

Sadly this was all predicted - Israel was warned about this months ago [see upthread]
and ignored the warnings

Did they ignore it or were they trying to figure out how to speed this inevitability up?

As you said this was predictable, breakdown in civil order is what happens when people are starving and desperate.

kirinm · 29/02/2024 19:11

stomachamelon · 29/02/2024 15:20

@EasterIssland there was also an Egyptian aid driver murdered by looters yesterday.

I am not saying the IDF didn't fire. I am just saying it's not very clear what happened yet and we should wait.

The IDF don't seem to investigate incidents like this unless they already know there's enough evidence to show it was them.

stomachamelon · 29/02/2024 20:04

apple.news/AMfaVyCaIRW6_wHu6u5MIfw

BBC news.
"A Palestinian witness told the BBC that most that had died had been run over"

@kirinm there is footage available so if the IDF have shot 100+ people then it will be easily proved.

PeasfullPerson · 29/02/2024 20:09

I don’t care if the IDF shot them, or they were run over because of the situation that was created by the actions of Israel in Gaza. It’s clear whose fault this is.

inkworks273 · 29/02/2024 20:51

PeasfullPerson · 29/02/2024 20:09

I don’t care if the IDF shot them, or they were run over because of the situation that was created by the actions of Israel in Gaza. It’s clear whose fault this is.

Exactly.

ScrollingLeaves · 29/02/2024 21:00

stomachamelon · 29/02/2024 20:04

apple.news/AMfaVyCaIRW6_wHu6u5MIfw

BBC news.
"A Palestinian witness told the BBC that most that had died had been run over"

@kirinm there is footage available so if the IDF have shot 100+ people then it will be easily proved.

From that link:
Palestinian media cited medical sources saying Israeli troops fired at the crowd.

If medical sources said that they may have seen the bullet wounds.

No doubt there was trampling too.

Then, there may have been Israeli tank fire.

ScrollingLeaves · 01/03/2024 08:19

Jeremy Bowen was talking about the Gaza aid distribution deaths on the today programme about 40 mins ago.

TakeMe2Insanity · 01/03/2024 14:14

The IDF deliberately shot and killed desperate people. This is beyond disgusting and apparently this is still not a genocide.

anotherlevel · 01/03/2024 14:44

TakeMe2Insanity · 01/03/2024 14:14

The IDF deliberately shot and killed desperate people. This is beyond disgusting and apparently this is still not a genocide.

It's self defence don't you know.🙄

EasterIssland · 01/03/2024 15:22

Who is she?

TakeMe2Insanity · 01/03/2024 15:30

anotherlevel · 01/03/2024 14:44

It's self defence don't you know.🙄

Apparently they (who are armed up to the maximum) felt threatened by a group of starving people.

Auvergne63 · 01/03/2024 15:32

I cannot put into words how I feel about the daily horrors that are willingly inflicted on the Palestinians by the IDF/Israeli government. I will let James Baldwin do it for me.
"The civilized have created the wretched, quite coldly and deliberately, and do not intend to change the status quo; are responsible for their slaughter and enslavement; rain down bombs on defenceless children whenever and wherever they decide that their "vital interests" are menaced, and think nothing of torturing a man to death: these people are not to be taken seriously when they speak of the "sanctity" of human life, or the "conscience" of the civilized world."
"People who treat other people as less than human must not be surprised when the bread they have cast on the waters comes floating back to them, poisoned."

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