This is the reality of what Israeli is doing.

[Eyesopenwideawake]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/im-so-scared-please-come-hind-rajab-six-found-dead-in-gaza-12-days-after-cry-for-help

Great to see something being done.

I’m having trouble understanding how much of a dent these food and medical packages will make on the current humanitarian situation. I have no idea (on average) how many people they will feed or for how long, or what the medical supplies will mean in terms of providing care.

Yes, but not exactly as easy access as aid being driven in by trucks. Trucks that Israel is refusing to allow entry to.

www.reddit.com/r/Israel/s/huIYC1ZEPN

Trucks that are attacked by Hamas and looted.
Seems safer to do it the way they are.

Same here.

Pleased to see aid being delivered

But want to see it being to the scale needed and to continue in that vein as long as required

Suspect some of this sudden improvement is due to Israels interim report to the ICJ being due

The US have already addressed this with Israel

What would be safer, is if the IDF could work to provide the trucks with safe passage instead of shooting police officers. If enough aid was being delivered then people wouldn’t be so desperate and there would be less risk of looting.

Never Israel's fault eh?

@inkworks273 it's almost as if the truth is in the nuance.

The secretary general of the Norwegian refugee council is in Gaza for the first time since the war,
he said in all his years he has bever seen anything like it. Short clip of his interview with CNN: https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/1762543820992872520?t=F6R8eqT1qza4KlGZZjo2hQ&s=19

Wow. That's shocking. Thanks for posting.

The truth is blatantly obvious which is that Israel is deliberately starving the population of Gaza.

There is no justification for starving people.

Thank you. That first hand account gives a full and true picture of what is happening.

I'm not going to get into a big discussion about why the aid is being delayed in the first place.
However, any land delivery is being hampered by degraded road networks in Northern Gaza - hence the airdrop.

The appalling state of the roads in Gaza is just one of many many reasons why food aid has not been delivered

Israel is repeating the same mistakes the U.S made in Iraq, but worse.

The problem is that Hamas, like the Ba’ath party in Iraq, are both a military organisation and an essential part of civil society, so you can’t just kill them all without replacing them with something else.

In the short term, Israel need to police Gaza (as the U.S military did in Iraq). Longer term it is harder. They either need to allow elements of Hamas forgiveness, or train up new police, administrators etc at their own cost.

It is easy to kill for a well trained army. However what comes after is far harder.

It’s not likely that policing by Israel will be accepted. They’ve just murdered 30,000 people whose relatives are just as upset as the families of the hostages, if not more so. There will be no lasting peace until Israel makes realistic and meaningful concessions

Is that why there are bouncy castles blocking the aid ? Because anyway it’d get blocked because the roads have been destroyed (by Israel)

Just saw this on twitter, i believe, tho i might be wrong , that zaka has been discussed in This thread

ZAKA exploited Hamas’s October 7 attack to campaign for donations – reportVolunteers who worked alongside ZAKA accuse members of creating promotional content, inventing stories, and mishandling bodies in PR push

https://www.timesofisrael.com/zaka-exploited-hamass-october-7-attack-to-campaign-for-donations-report/amp/

https://theintercept.com/2024/02/27/zaka-october-7-israel-hamas-new-york-times/

who are zaka and who assigned them the task post 7-10 ? should we believe what they have said ?

ps. Before anyone accuses me of denying 7-10. No I’m not denying it. I know it happened and it shouldn’t have happened. What I’m questioning is what Zaka members have said and some of the misinformation that they’ve provided that is many times used in the threads to accuse some of us of being 7-10 deniers when we criticise Israel’s government and idf

There is a fundamental difference between Gaza and Iraq that you have overlooked.
It was never an aim of the US military to clear Iraq of its inhabitants and fill it with American citizens. But this has been Israel's ongoing policy vis a vis the Palestinians since 1948, and the Likud party have openly declared "transfer" of the Palestinians as a goal of theirs for years.
They refer to the West Bank and Gaza as Judea and Samaria and aim to annex them.
Check out this episode of 'People and Power' on AlJazeera for more about it.

Thanks for sharing the links about ZAKA @EasterIssland . I was just reading up on them. Apparently Stuart Seldowitz is on their advisory board. If you recall, he's the guy who went on a rant to the halal street vendor in New York back in November. The one who famously said: “if we killed four thousand Palestinian kids, you know what? It wasn’t enough”.

Zaka is a volunteer group that collect bodies after terrorist attacks to get the remains interred quicklyfor religious reasons. They are not objective or professional and they have destroyed forensic evidence so thereby denying justice to those who were sexually assaulted before and probably also after they were killed.No winners in this conflict, apparently many struggle with mental health post 7/10 as a result of the recovery operation.But given that terrorist attacks are to be expected given the political vacuum, you would wonder why religiously motivated amateurs are allowed do this work. You’d also be thinking that it suited Netanyahu’s agenda to let the exaggerated stories get conflated with the truth/-as if the atrocities weren’t bad enough and needed embellishing

they have destroyed forensic evidence so thereby denying justice to those who were sexually assaulted before and probably also after they were killed.

Yes, I remember reading that too. In one way it is understandable given the need to get on with burials and the chaos in the aftermath of the massacres, but really that is all the more reason why professionals should have done it right from the start.

Dear Lord what an unpleasant man he was on that video.

Zaka and their ilk are much of the reason why people have been so sceptical of the stories from Oct 7. 40 beheaded babies etc. Wild stories with no evidence behind them which Israel then used to justify its horrific behaviour in Gaza. And if people asked for proof they were told they were being antisemitic.

It did the actual victims no favours at all.