This is the reality of what Israeli is doing.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/im-so-scared-please-come-hind-rajab-six-found-dead-in-gaza-12-days-after-cry-for-help

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-06-19/debates/F75D29CB-C4C8-447D-A028-1FA05CD3594D/JewishRefugeesFromTheMiddleEastAndNorthAfrica

If anyone would like to read a bit more about the ethnic cleansing of Arab Jews, this might be a good start. There is a distinct lack of knowledge about it on here, and far too much minimising of it. Hopefully you'll believe at least some of the stories told here.

That's not what Netanyahu said just yesterday - so you would appear to be wrong

No idea what you’re talking about. That’s the border between Israel and Gaza. It’s Israel’s right to stop anyone crossing their border. Nothing at all like needing paperwork to visit a town in the same country.

You’re not wrong saying you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about!

You realise that Israel refuses to let Palestine be a separate country, don’t you?

Actually I’m not sure you do realise that they aren’t separate countries.
I think you need to find a ‘Middle east politics for dummies’ book before you come near these threads again 😂😂😂

You ask why Sunak needs to be prime minister as he has millions? I don't care how many millions he has as long as he's up to the job. He's obviously passionate and not doing it for the money/lecture circuit/book deals.

How about looking at your dd as you put her to bed and thinking instead how relieved you are that she doesn't have to witness her parents and siblings being tortured and killed and her mother raped aka October 7th?

I absolutely believe in a two state solution.

You believe it exists now..?

or you hope it will happen so you’ll convince yourself it actually exists one day so will invest imaginary borders in the meantime?

Thank you for finding the strength to educate people whether they want to hear it or not.. you must realise there are plenty of terrorist sympathisers on here.

Israel does not refuse to ‘let’ Palestine be a separate country.

The state of Israel supported a two state solution back in 1947. It was rejected by the Arab side.

Where's the proof they did that??

I’m really struggling to comprehend some of the positions on this thread. I’m not sure if it’s just woeful ignorance or posters being deliberately obtuse

Just 2 weeks ago, Netanyahu once again ruled out a two state solution and said he will not conceive of a day when Palestinians have sovereignty.

Are you honestly trying to suggest that because of a referendum nearly 80 years ago, the idea should be off the table?

How can you be so utterly ignorant of decades of attempts of peace talks in the region all faltering because of Israel’s dogmatic position on this?

it blows my mind yet again that posters don’t have even the most basic information about the situation and yet feel they can add valid opinions. The arrogance is unreal!

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/21/middleeast/netanyahu-palestinian-sovereignty-two-state-solution-intl/index.html

Fuck me, I’ve just said I support a two state solution.

That is currently not supported by Netanyahu or Hamas.

One of those can be removed by democratic elections. The other can’t.

Yes, it is absolutely chilling.

I have no doubt that they are mostly left wing (as am I) people who think of themselves as being anti-racist and having a social conscience. And yet here they are. It is all, at its core, just old fashioned antisemitism.

@tenbob you do realise that you aren't supposed to make personal comments on here? Exasperated or not posters are entitled to not share your opinion without being repeatedly insulted.

The frustration is because of terrorist sympathisers and antisemites twisting words.

Thank you, I read that with great interest.

That Parliamentary debate could be the basis for a new thread though, so though there are a few things I might have quoted from there for more reflection this is not quite the place.

Briefly, it does bring up the same figure of 800000- 850000 or some mentioned 1 million, (with one speaker mentioning positive motives for resettling among some).

The message of the debate overall is to remember Arab Jews too are refugees; the Arab Jews too, not just Palestinians, suffered greatly after 1948.

There was also mention of support for a two state solution and a warning not to recreate more suffering.

I’m not making personal comments

It is merely an observation to point out that some posters are woefully ignorant of even the most basic of facts of the conflict.
Eg not realising that Palestine wasn’t a country

Other than a couple of posters calling anyone who disagrees with genocide ‘antisemitic’, I don’t think there have been any personal attacks on this thread but point out any you’ve seen

Who on this thread is being antisemitic?
And which posts have been sympathetic to terrorism?

I fucking care !! As do most civilised people.

Netanyahu has denied the right of Palestine to their own State even since 1978, and possibly longer.

I can’t believe you are actually saying this. Have you listened to the audio’s, have you seen the pictures ? There is no doubt Israel did this war crime and killed those poor girls, the world knows it, I have no words for anyone who can deny this.