This is the reality of what Israeli is doing.

[Eyesopenwideawake]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/im-so-scared-please-come-hind-rajab-six-found-dead-in-gaza-12-days-after-cry-for-help

Is that women bonkers?

Saying Israel want (to dig) a new canal to avoid Egypt's Suez. 🤔Perhaps she needs a geography lesson?

Since when? Can you really be so unaware?

Let’s not be silly now.

Surely you don’t believe that?

Are you going to admit this is a mistake or do we now have to show you hundreds of links to show you are wrong before you concede..?

And having Israel on their doorstop just giving away land for free and a government loan to build a house on it (not to worry the IDF will help you kick off any Arabs and even force them to demolish their own homes!)
A land where you can be a first class citizen that gets billions from the US in “aid” every year. A new nation that was advertising itself as a homeland for all Jews, no visa needed, just show up and you are granted full citizenship.

That I suppose had nothing to do with those Jewish people voluntarily emigrating en masse from the poverty stricken neighbouring countries.

That isn’t ethnic cleansing where people are forced to flee as refugees. That is what is called being an economic migrant.

At least you’ve updated your position from this idiocy.

This is insane. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. How were they stopping people going to university.

From the Wikipedia page linked:

“In the 20th century, approximately 900000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. Primarily a consequence of the Israeli Declaration of Independence, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s, with one final exodus of Iranian Jewsoccurring shortly after the Islamic Revolution in 1979–1980. An estimated 650000 (72%) of these Jews resettled in Israel.[1]”

From reading this Wikipedia you posted, if it is correct, of the 900,000 Jews leaving/other from Muslim-minority countries in the 20th century over 30 years, not all of the 900,000 were forced out of Arab countries as you suggest.

It says:
“migrated, fled, or were expelled”
with 2/3 roughly (650,000) resetting in Israel.

Withdrew and then implemented a blockade by air, land and sea, aka continued occupation. Internationally recognised by pretty much everyone.

Every day I get sadder and sadder at what I see going on for the people of Gaza.

If you’re suggesting that Israel was stopping Gazan people going to university or travelling between towns they weren’t

At least, as you said to me, you have updated your position from earlier idiocy too. Takes one to know one, am I right?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/01/its-like-another-planet-crossing-the-border-from-gaza-to-work-in-israel

Israel wasn’t occupying Gaza

Genuinely bored of people saying this now.* *

Oh, so only post 2005 persecutions count for this thread..?

Here is your starter for ten:

No universities or higher education institutions existed in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip until 1972.

Before then, Palestinian high school graduates sought higher education abroad, mostly in Egyptian and Jordanian universities.

However, the restrictions on student movements after the Israeli occupation of West Bank and Gaza Strip in 1967, the declining economic conditions, and the increasing limitations on the admission of Palestinian students to Arab universities changed this situation.
As such, local initiatives led by local elders and social and nationalist leaders sought to establish national higher education institutions in the occupied territories

The Islamic University was subjected to the different Israeli restrictions against Palestinian universities, which the Palestinians perceived as centres of political struggle and nation-building.

The establishment of the Faculty of Nursing, intended in 1986, was denied by Israeli authorities until 1993. Building permits were stalled and limited. Also, similar to other universities, the Islamic University was subjected to severe restrictions on academic freedom such as limitations of staff movement and Military Order 854. It was also issued with a temporary license that required annual renewal, and denied tax exemptions.

Now please explain to me how a Palestinian residing in Gaza can attend a university in the West Bank without being prevented from doing so by Israel..?

Don’t forget Israel banned and expelled all Palestinian students from Israeli Universities for several years starting in 2006 as well as banning Gazan students from studying in the West Bank.
https://gisha.org/en/palestinian-students-still-banned-from-israeli-universities/

I'm not going to bother discussing the ethnic cleansing of Jews with a poster who is partly minimising and partly denying it happened. But for everyone else reading, it is a well known fact that 900 000ish Jews were ethnically cleansed from various Arab nations

So this is thread about the death of Hind Rajab and you want to discuss the displacement of Jewish people pre 1948? Well it seems a bit off topic. Isn’t there a thread for that? (If there isn’t you could start one I suppose)

There was a fairly comprehensive report on Channel 4 news last night explaining why it has taken this time. It showed the car that Hind and other family members died in. It also showed the mangled wreck of the ambulance and blurred out some of its contents. There were interviews with colleagues of the ambulance crew and the people who talked to Hind for 3 hours to try and reassure her .
It was a difficult watch and will do nothing to sway the vast majority of people in the UK from the opinion that the Israeli Govt's actions in Gaza are totally repulsive and not proportionate.

”Since 2000, Israel has prevented students in Gaza from traveling to study at universities in the West Bank, some of which offer fields of study and degrees not available in Gaza. According to a report from Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, between 2000 and 2012 Israel let just three Gazans travel to study at universities in the West Bank, all of whom had received US government scholarships.”
https://imeu.org/article/israeli-violations-of-palestinian-academic-freedom-access-to-education

How does this past experience, including that of your family, make you feel about Israel's current ethnic cleansing of Gazans?

@Humdingerydoo And btw we would all like to know in detail what exactly is happening in Gaza but Israel doesn't want us to know. As Jeremy Bowen points out in his article today

"I'd rather be writing this story in the Gaza Strip, not Jerusalem. After many years of covering wars, since El Salvador in 1989, I'm convinced that nothing beats first-hand reporting.
Unfortunately, in this terrible war, international journalists can't do that. Israel and Egypt, the two countries that control Gaza's borders, do not want us in there, reporting freely. Israel allows some closely supervised visits with its army. I have been on only one, back in November.
Since we cannot get in, we rely on Palestinian journalists who can't get out. I have huge admiration for their courage and dedication to truthful reporting."

Israel-Gaza war: Death and Israel’s search for ‘total victory’ - BBC News

On Ethnic cleansing in Iraq it's useful to post the whole Wikipedia link as it has much more information.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ezra_and_Nehemiah

There were other factors involved as well such as the Baghdad Bombings rumoured to be carried out by Mossad/underground Zionist groups in order to encourage Iraqi Jews to emigrate to Israel.

A similar operation (only admitted to in 2005) also occurred in Egypt, where Israeli agents deliberately bombed US and UK sites in Egypt and blamed it on "Arab" terrorists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

@Silence1 thanks for sharing. MSM are no longer hiding their criticism of the shocking death toll in Gaza because of the actions of the IDF, it does surprise me to see that there are people who do believe despite the mounting evidence that the IDF are trying to minimise casualties

The Americans have since 7 October urged Israel to respect the laws of war in Gaza, specifically to stop killing so many Palestinian civilians. The fact that American officials, from President Biden downwards, keep repeating and strengthening their criticisms shows they believe Israel has ignored them.

The ICJ said in it's judgement that Hamas should 'unconditionally release the hostages'.
It seems they ignored that instruction?

How is this relevant to this thread?

All this would end if Hamas gave up firing rockets into Israel and apologise for the Oct 7 massacre and release all hostages. .

So Israel will stop sniping 4 year olds if Hamas release the hostages?

All this would end if Hamas gave up firing rockets into Israel and apologise for the Oct 7 massacre and release all hostages

Would it though? Or would Israel’s right wing government decide to just crack on with the ethnic cleansing?