Hamas planned attacks on Jewish people in Europe

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Have seen in the news - I suspect it’s the tip of the iceberg and absolutely terrifying for Jewish people everywhere. Hamas need to be stopped, hopefully this helps to reinforce that they are a terrorist group and not some romantic notion about being ‘freedom fighters’

Yep. Madness

Trump supporters is the US are always muttering darkly about what they don't want us to know when they're talking about Jan 6 or vote counting. Some posts in this thread are reminding me of them.

Thought this was interesting. Photo from 1941.

'Bad people ' the most delusional post of the year award.

No I am not saying that. I have said repeatedly on other threads that they are terrorists. I hope that clarifies the issue for you and the others on this thread and others who are seeking to make this false accusation against me.

False accusation? You literally just said yoy won't call them terrorists.

I did not say that. Hamas are terrorists. I will call people who have been arrested in Germany and Denmark terrorists when they are convicted of terrorism. Leave me alone now.

@TriOptimim @Desertrose2023

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"I will call happily call them that when they’ve been convicted of terrorism. Until then I’ll stick with bad people. Thanks."

Hmm...

This ! How can these people be called terrorists when they haven’t terrorised anyone ? They are not guilty of anything yet, probably held with little evidence as well. If they had done, then yes they would be, but they haven’t so they are not.

probably held with little evidence as well

That's quite a statement to make!

Is there a point to your inane comment?

I said I would call the people arrested in Germany and Denmark terrorists when they have been convicted of terrorist offences. I have already clarified I don’t support Hamas. I’m not sure why you’re quoting me again with the same thing I’ve just said two comments above.

This is reminiscent of the chicken and the egg riddle.
Which came first: The appalling treatment of Palestinians by Israelis, or Hamas's attack?
If we wanted to never suffer a Hamas attack, then why not allow Palestinians to live in digity. Its beyond the capacity of Israeli leadship to move this crisis in the right direction I fear.
BTW i fully condemn Hamas.

Way to victim blame.

probably held with little evidence as well.

Nothing I have read would lead anyone to believe that's true and surely they would have been released? It's a long term investigation across more than one country.

Your instance in peddling conspiracy theories is worrying to say the least.

@daytriptovulcan wow. Women and children were murdered and raped by people who broke through to get at them. Peace activists and babies. Shame on you.

This seems to belong on an awful lot of these threads, but I'll just share it here 😊

Rishi Sunak says that too many innocent lives have been lost in Gaza, and that too many young Muslims risk being radicalised.

For fucks sake. It took this long for them to work it out?

Im not victim blaming. The Israeli state policy of military occupation is unhelpful, right? It brings death to Palestinians, and insecurity to Israelis.
Tha hardest decision for Israels government and Hamas miltants will be how and when to transcend the violence. Sooner or later thats whats needed. So stop trying to shame other people.

Israel has "gone beyond self-defence" and lost the moral authority in its war with Hamas, the chair of the Commons foreign affairs committee has said.

Shame on them.

'Insecurity' that's a new way to describe raping and murdering.
I wasn't aware the kibbutz's were on 'occupied' soil. Where they?
You need to be shamed. Crack open a joss stick whilst you consider transcending that violence.
Ridiculous.

Have you ever criticised Egypt for not opening the borders of Gaza? The Gaza-Israel border was open to a degree. Dignity... Israel had left that territory, Gazans voted for terrorists, those terrorists effectively destroyed Gaza even before Israel invaded/returned this year. Should we then blame America, Britain and France for Normandy 1944??! Or should we blame those who took advantage of the difficulties Germans were going through and those who decided to support them?

@LondonDad77 have you seen pictures of Gaza before and after the war?
If there's anyone who destroyed it to the state where it is almost uninhabitable, it is the IDF.
Its a case of clear domicide and the world is somehow just watching it happen

The kibbutzim that were attacked with all those horrible things that followed were not in the West Bank (which is what you have suggested) but in 'Israel proper'.

There were tunnels in Vietnam. The US Army used a similar tactic there. Was it justified? I believe so.