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Conflict in the Middle East

What is the deal with the violence in West Bank ?

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notsoready4school · 10/11/2023 13:31

why does a mentally disabled child throwing stones deserve to be shot from 150 metres away ? The stones couldn’t have even reached them? They can’t possibly be fearing him, he is by himself, they are tons of them and they have cars and guns. How is this justifiable to all these people going on and on supporting a country where these things go on. How is this a country the west considers a democratic ally? How do these values reflect the values of the west?

I understand the outrage of parents wanting the hostages back but Fouads parents will never ever have him back.

The link is to Channel4 reporting Matt Frei

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1722715554274783247?s=20

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1722715554274783247?s=20

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notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 09:45

How predictable… this from 2 minutes ago on Al Jazeera. If they can’t do it in Gaza then any Palestinian is fair game.

where are the voices screaming for 3130 ppl taken hostage to be released!?

Israeli forces launch massive arrest campaign in occupied West Bank
The Palestinian Prisoners’ Club says Israeli forces have arrested 90 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank since last night.
Among them were a woman from Tubas, and former prisoners. 36 of them were from the village of Azzun east of Qalqilya and al-Arroub refugee camp.
Since October 7, 3,130 Palestinians have been arrested in the occupied West Bank.

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feralunderclass · 23/11/2023 10:13

They are trying to clear the West Bank of Palestinians by either killing them or driving them out by serious violence. The government will then say "they left voluntarily". Ben Gvri (security minister) said the West Bank will become Jewish.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/11/2023 10:59

How is this a country the west considers a democratic ally? How do these values reflect the values of the west?

I don’t know.

I don’t know why this sort of Israeli regime murder of Palestinians has been enabled and supported by the West.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/11/2023 11:41

Re
Palestinian child prisoners under the Israeli military occupation this was posted on another thread. It is a documentary film made before this present conflict.

It is called,
Stone Cold Justice: Israel’s torture of Palestinian children - ABC Australia

“Description
A film which has been produced by a group of Australian journalists has sparked an international outcry against Israel after it explicitly detailed Tel Aviv's use of torture against Palestinian children.

The film, titled ‘Stone Cold Justice’ documents how Palestinian children, who have been arrested and detained by Israeli forces, are subjected to physical abuse, torture and forced into false confessions and pushed into gathering intelligence on Palestinian activists.

Australia's foreign minister Julie Bishop has spoken out against Israeli's use of torture stating that “I am deeply concerned by allegations of the mistreatment of Palestinian children,”

Israel's Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor has described the human rights abuses documented in the film as “intolerable”. But rights groups have slammed this statement, saying that the Israelis are doing nothing to change Tel Aviv's policy to torture Palestinian children. Last year a report by the United Nations International Emergency Children's Fund or UNICEF concluded that Palestinian children are often targeted in night arrests and raids of their homes, threatened with death and subjected to physical violence, solitary confinement and sexual assault. The film Stone Cold Justice has sparked an international outcry about Israel's treatment of children in Israeli jails. However, rights groups have criticized Tel Aviv for not doing anything to create a policy that protects Palestinian children against arbitrary arrest and torture.

This Documentary is produced by ABC Australia and shared via Voice Of East Vimeo -

There is a WARNING that this has upsetting content.

Stone Cold Justice: Israel’s torture of Palestinian children - ABC Australia

A film which has been produced by a group of Australian journalists has sparked an international outcry against Israel after it explicitly detailed Tel Aviv'...

https://youtu.be/cvOSv2fGJ5w?feature=shared

notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 12:20

I saw this but seriously it’s like the world is up in arms about ceasefire now but actually it’s almost scary what will happen when the ceasefire actually happens with the current regime because that’s when the world eyes turn away and the even more intense oppression of Palestinians will restart in earnest. The voices of reason in Israel will be quashed.

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notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 18:18

They just shot and killed a 12 year old boy in West Bank. This is crazy. How can they just do that? This is even worse optically than Gaza. At least Gaza they pretend they are human shields. Here it’s just openly murdering children an the world is saying nothing. NOTHING!

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feralunderclass · 23/11/2023 18:28

notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 18:18

They just shot and killed a 12 year old boy in West Bank. This is crazy. How can they just do that? This is even worse optically than Gaza. At least Gaza they pretend they are human shields. Here it’s just openly murdering children an the world is saying nothing. NOTHING!

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stormy4319trevor · 23/11/2023 19:35

@notsoready4school Where did you see that? I'm worried that things will ramp up in the WB and scupper the tentative pause in Gaza.

EasterIssland · 23/11/2023 19:40

Found it on Twitter

What is the deal with the violence in West Bank ?
EasterIssland · 23/11/2023 19:41

All good these is the ceasefire type that apparently Hamas broke 7-10

What is the deal with the violence in West Bank ?
stormy4319trevor · 23/11/2023 19:43

EasterIssland · 23/11/2023 19:40

Found it on Twitter

Thank you. Tragic and unnecessary.

EasterIssland · 23/11/2023 23:44

This is why I get so annoyed when people say Hamas broke the ceasefire that was in place. There wasn’t one. There wasn’t a war in place but neither a ceasefire

What is the deal with the violence in West Bank ?
notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 23:59

I know this ceasefire word is so deceptive.

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Humdingerydoo · 24/11/2023 00:02

Indeed, @notsoready4school . Incredibly deceptive. Hamas are asking their friends elsewhere to fight Israel on their behalf during the ceasefire. Luckily there's no Hamas in the West Bank so it won't be a problem, right?

What is the deal with the violence in West Bank ?
Toothyfruity · 24/11/2023 15:32

Humdingerydoo · 24/11/2023 00:02

Indeed, @notsoready4school . Incredibly deceptive. Hamas are asking their friends elsewhere to fight Israel on their behalf during the ceasefire. Luckily there's no Hamas in the West Bank so it won't be a problem, right?

Has Israel said it will stop rounding up and imprisoning civilians in the West Bank during the truce? Have armed settlers agreed to stop attacking people and throwing them off their land?

StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 00:46

A different kind of violence in the West Bank tonight as Hamas (who supposedly are not in the WB) have executed two alleged "Israeli spies" and strung them up from electricity pylons in front of cheering crowds in the Town of Tulkurem.

There is very graphic footage on Twitter which I will not share here.

ItsRainingTacos79 · 25/11/2023 01:29

The LBC interview with Eylon Levy, Israeli spokesperson. Listen specifically to the discussion at 14.00 minutes into the show - spokesperson disputes West Bank settlements are illegal under international law.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=eG5_6B1qlnM

SomeCatFromJapan · 25/11/2023 07:47

Might not be a bad idea if Hamas is removed from the West Bank either.

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Elk/status/1728178602347257893

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Elk/status/1728178602347257893

stormy4319trevor · 25/11/2023 12:11

@ItsRainingTacos79 I think it's very significant that Levy openly states this. It is basically saying that they will continue building settlements and do what they like in the WB, because it is now Israel. There's a disjunct between this open claim and western politicians talking about negotiating 2 state solutions and fair settlement. Any time a commentator suggests 2 states it needs to be said, this government has already taken the WB - they think it is theirs.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 12:21

SomeCatFromJapan

It reminds me of the Ramallah lynching, although that was even worse. It's the reaction of the crowd that gets me - they're positively gleeful.

I wonder if it's on msm yet or doesn't it fit the narrative?

25milesfromhome · 25/11/2023 12:35

SomeCatFromJapan · 25/11/2023 07:47

Might not be a bad idea if Hamas is removed from the West Bank either.

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Elk/status/1728178602347257893

Wait, is this the Hamas that “doesn’t exist in the West Bank”?

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 12:46

@StarbucksSmarterSister funny how they have managed that.... even though they don't exist in the West Bank.

MaisyAndTallulah · 25/11/2023 12:52

Isn't it easy to pontificate from the safety of distance?

Virtually everyone involved is a victim. Israelis, Palestinians...they're people like you and me..they have been focused on their families and their livelihoods and schooling. They don't want war.

Please stop trying to group people into cohorts to align with your narrative.

War is mass murder organised almost always by psychopathic men and never by ordinary people who value life.

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2023 13:10

25milesfromhome · 25/11/2023 12:35

Wait, is this the Hamas that “doesn’t exist in the West Bank”?

The Times of Israel is not reporting Hamas did this:
“Members of Palestinian armed groups executed two men in the West Bank city of Tulkarem Friday night accused of collaborating with Israel, as a mob cheered them on, according to Palestinian reports.”

There are various resistance militia groups on the West Bank.

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