Israel has bombed the front of a hospital

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Israel has bombed the gates of the Al Shalha hospital.

Everyone knows displaced families are sheltering in and near hospitals.

But would people have freedom of speech in Israel? A lot of people have been going missing for showing dissent towards the current government in Israel. Ironic really.

One of the things you can’t choose not to do in Israel is not to do the military service. Such a shame that they don’t have as freedom to choose what they want

Glad also you’re not a woman whose husband is beating her … such a freedom they’ve got in Israel!

And this is before the current attrocities.

Oops sorry. Posted on the wrong thread. Meant to post on the thread about misinformation.

Still an intersting post.
Thanks

I didn't say Israel is responsible for antisemitism. You don't need me to tell you that's been around since the beginning of time. I said Israel is responsible for the knock on effect around Europe, following the government's blatant genocide, whilst calling the Palestinians animals and calling openly for a nakba. Videos have been posted where IDF and Israeli civilians are celebrating these deaths, mocking bereaved mothers. Just today I saw a social media account of Israeli men on a beach in Gaza, laughing that there are no Palestinians in that area any more and it will belong to them.

Whilst committing crimes that a lot of the international world are saying could be war crimes, Netanyahu is saying that the Jewish people are the victims and they deserve to be safe. We've seen how the state of Israel permisses some of these 'victims' to kill, torture, humiliate Palestinians in the West Bank with impunity. I actually agree with the Hamas article shared above- the Israeli government are making this is a Jewish issue per se - not Hamas.

Thank you 😊

And to further my point, just saw an article where Netanyahu said "the IDF is the only thing keeping Jews safe". Language matters - he didn't say Israelis. There are Muslim/Christian (Arab) Israeli citizens, the ones that posters on here were going to great lengths to tell us about to illustrate how "fair" Israel is and giving them equal rights. Are the IDF protecting them too? No, not from what we've seen.

Agreed.
Also, Israel has always used the antisemitism in Europe to encourage Jewish immigration to Israel and to make non Israeli Jews feel that only Israel will protect them.

I think Israel is making the world a much more unsafe and scary place for jews. They are turning the world against them with the genocide they are perpetuating in Gaza. Ive heard so many Jewish people saying how unsafe they feel now and its supposed to mean unsafe due to the oct 7th attacks. But if i was Jewish, watching what is unfolding daily, i would feel more worried about people's anger at what the Israeli government are doing. I know a lot of Jewish people are totally against what is going on but their voices are silenced.

The IDF have released a lot of footage now claiming to show Hamas operations under Al-Shifa hospital, where they allegedly had a command node.

This has been confirmed by a US official according to CNN.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/13/politics/al-shifa-hospital-us-intelligence/index.html

IDF: Hamas operations center discovered beneath hospitaL

Israel claims it has uncovered a Hamas operations center beneath the al-Shifa hospital in Gaza city, and evidence suggesting that hostages taken in the 7 October attacks were held there.

Also found inside the hospital, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said, was a motorcycle it believes Hamas used during its assault, and a tunnel from the hospital linking it with a house used by Hamas leaders.

Lt Col Peter Lerner has just been on CNN explaining what he says the IDF found:
The hospital has most definitely been used for terrorist activities. This is a hospital that we’ve been evacuating over the last few days . The civilians and the terrorists escaped from the hospital… and hostages taken with the terrorists out of the hospital premises.

We found a motorcycle in the hospital itself. The motorcycle has a bullet hole in its fuel tank, that looks like one of those motorcycles we’ve seen in all of those videos coming out of the 7th of October.

We also found a tunnel that appears to connect a senior terrorist house [of] a commander… to the hospital, so this is a merciless network putting the people of Gaza at risk. This is what we’ve been saying throughout the last 38 days.He said hairbands, diapers and baby bottles found under the hospital suggest that children and babies were among the hostages who may have been held there.

CNN reports that “a US official with knowledge of American intelligence” has confirmed the discovery. According to the network, the official confirms fuel intended for the hospital is used by Hamas, and that Hamas fighters “regularly cluster in and around Gaza’s largest hospital”.

Earlier Monday, Joe Biden said the hospital, where hundreds of patients are trapped, “must be protected” and called for “less intrusive action” by Israeli forces.

Is this Hamas HQ then? Or just an operations centre?

No hostages found

I saw he video on Twitter.

shall I trust idf ? 🤔

Or lies if it’s coming from the IDF.
Why aren’t they allowing independent reporters in.
Whilst the press doesn’t have access they can say and do whatever they like.

I dare say it’s in the US favour to find all sorts, just like the Iraq lies.

They will do whatever it takes to make the world believe that there somehow is a tunnel or a command centre or whatever under/ around the hospital. To justify the assault on the hospital and the killing of the old, infirm and babies. They've been lying since day 1, how can anyone believe a word coming from the genociders? CNN citing “a US official with knowledge of American intelligence” conveniently hiding behind anonymity.
How can we believe all those propagandists when they were questioning the number of all those thousands of innocent people killed in Gaza?

The IDF could release a statement saying Netanyahu is Jewish and I wouldn't be inclined to believe it. We've had enough of the lies, and so has the rest of the world.

Anyone can translate the words and whether it’s really the days of the week ?

seems like the guy from the video also says it
https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1724175188638511544/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1724175188638511544&currentTweetUser=muhammadshehad2

You can see days of the week written below the Arabic script which is presumably names. In fairness until someone translates the title it could be any schedule really.

@SomeCatFromJapan I’ve seen on Twitter the title says :
Battle of Al-Aqsa Flood" which is how 7-10 was called

however , idf and this lady say the words next to the dates were people that were in charge of the hostages on those days. However , what I can read on Twitter is that in reality it’s the days of the week so Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday.

@EasterIssland thank you, that's interesting.

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The report I saw said the IDF footage is at Rantisi hospital, not Al Shifa.

That was separate to the CNN article.

There are a lot of hospitals in Gaza which can lead to confusion I guess.

Sorry yes you're quite right. CNN report is Al Shifa, the footage today was Rantisi. Apologies for the confusion.

The Guardian article I posted isn't so clear either

Whilst it's headlined Al Shifa most of it was about what had been found at Rantisi