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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel has bombed the front of a hospital

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TakeMe2Insanity · 03/11/2023 15:56

Israel has bombed the gates of the Al Shalha hospital.

Everyone knows displaced families are sheltering in and near hospitals.

Israel has bombed the front of a hospital
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Xenia · 13/11/2023 22:38

Easter the Uk had national service after WWII - my father was called up and rejected again and again for a few years in the 1950s. It is a normal thing for democratic societies to have. The US too had the draft for Vietnam. Israel has military service but if you are pacifist you can do activities such as clearing up instead.

Parkingt111 · 13/11/2023 22:40

It is the arabic names of the days in the week.
Here is how they are written

Israel has bombed the front of a hospital
Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 13/11/2023 22:41

My Arabic isn't the best. As in i studied it when i was younger, and havent for a while. But I'm sure those are days of the week

HaveALaff · 13/11/2023 22:42

... More lies.

Days of the week??? Omg... I don't believe anything the IDF says.

Parkingt111 · 13/11/2023 22:43

I'm bit suprised the IDF man didn't know that
It's pretty clear that it's a calender

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 13/11/2023 22:43

Cross Post with @Parkingt111

EnoughIsay · 13/11/2023 22:46

SomeCatFromJapan · 13/11/2023 21:02

The IDF have released a lot of footage now claiming to show Hamas operations under Al-Shifa hospital, where they allegedly had a command node.

This has been confirmed by a US official according to CNN.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/13/politics/al-shifa-hospital-us-intelligence/index.html

You need a lot more than that at this @SomeCatFromJapan .

It will take days, if not weeks to confirm anything this IDF has to say. And "a US official"? Puleaseee

EnoughIsay · 13/11/2023 22:53

EasterIssland · 13/11/2023 22:16

@SomeCatFromJapan I’ve seen on Twitter the title says :
Battle of Al-Aqsa Flood" which is how 7-10 was called

however , idf and this lady say the words next to the dates were people that were in charge of the hostages on those days. However , what I can read on Twitter is that in reality it’s the days of the week so Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday.

So - the place is being bombed, all hell has broken loose but somebody in Hamas actually has a pen, takes the time to write a fucking staff rota and pin it on the wall?

Parkingt111 · 13/11/2023 22:55

This is classic propaganda. I think it was during the Iraq war, one of the officers held up a 'terror manual' they had found and he was really going off on one, I remember many people being quite bemused as it was a Arabic text book that was taught in alot of schools

EasterIssland · 13/11/2023 22:59

Xenia · 13/11/2023 22:38

Easter the Uk had national service after WWII - my father was called up and rejected again and again for a few years in the 1950s. It is a normal thing for democratic societies to have. The US too had the draft for Vietnam. Israel has military service but if you are pacifist you can do activities such as clearing up instead.

You’re talking about 1946?. We are in 2023

spain also had it during the dictatorship is optional since 1980
the reality is in Israel you’ve to do military service , as a woman you can’t ask for divorce and a gay person can’t get married. Blimey they’re incredible rights!

EasterIssland · 13/11/2023 23:01

EnoughIsay · 13/11/2023 22:53

So - the place is being bombed, all hell has broken loose but somebody in Hamas actually has a pen, takes the time to write a fucking staff rota and pin it on the wall?

I’m also surprised idf has not had time to check with anyone what it does say in the paper. It’s something stupid and small but makes them look once again like liars. If they want people to trust them these small lies shouldn’t happen

feralunderclass · 13/11/2023 23:01

EnoughIsay · 13/11/2023 22:53

So - the place is being bombed, all hell has broken loose but somebody in Hamas actually has a pen, takes the time to write a fucking staff rota and pin it on the wall?

Have you not seen the copy of Mein Kampf (in Arabic of course) that was allegedly found on a dead Hamas commander? Absolutely hilarious, the thought of these terrorists having a bit of a read on their lunch break. It's like sonething out of Monty Python.

Parkingt111 · 13/11/2023 23:09

@feralunderclass I saw that. Found on top of a dead commander aswell
So whilst there was shooting and bombing going around him, this commander instead of fighting back decided to read this book? And then somehow was killed and the book ended up on top of him
Someone make it make sense please.
I don't know what's worse, the blatant lies or that there will still be some who won't even question it

Ohlalalalala · 13/11/2023 23:11

feralunderclass · 13/11/2023 23:01

Have you not seen the copy of Mein Kampf (in Arabic of course) that was allegedly found on a dead Hamas commander? Absolutely hilarious, the thought of these terrorists having a bit of a read on their lunch break. It's like sonething out of Monty Python.

😂yes!! I mean, what the heck were they thinking? They used to be soo good at propaganda but they are losing the plot methinks 😂

FOJN · 13/11/2023 23:15

Don't forget the leaflet detailing all the weak spots on Israeli tanks and the manual containing the entire operation plan.

I'm sure if you find yourself facing a tank you would consult a leaflet on where to shoot it to do the most damage.

NotABeliever · 13/11/2023 23:18

I don't believe a word that comes out of the mouths of those Israeli generals who go on interviews with BBC, channel 4, etc. Some are good liers admittedly, they do sound convincing.
But if you pay attention you can tell they're lying. Like.when they said the video showed Israeli soldiers dropping off cans of fuel and it being stolen by Hamas. The video showed no such thing.

Readingallnight · 13/11/2023 23:25

EasterIssland · 13/11/2023 22:20

Here bigger

Conveniently stuck on the wall.
Nice clean piece of paper.
To show the childrens hospital was used by Hamas.
My my they are finding lots of evidence aren’t they 🤣🤣🤣

Humdingerydoo · 13/11/2023 23:25

Oh FFS even Sweden has mandatory army service for men 🤦🏻‍♀️ Stop pretending it's somehow unique to Israel.

Readingallnight · 13/11/2023 23:26

Ohlalalalala · 13/11/2023 23:11

😂yes!! I mean, what the heck were they thinking? They used to be soo good at propaganda but they are losing the plot methinks 😂

And such a nice clean copy too.

WilmaWonka · 13/11/2023 23:28

EnoughIsay · 13/11/2023 22:46

You need a lot more than that at this @SomeCatFromJapan .

It will take days, if not weeks to confirm anything this IDF has to say. And "a US official"? Puleaseee

It has been known that hospitals in Gaza are used as Hamas bases for many years going back to the early 2000’s, especially Al Shifa.

It’s not something the IDF have just pulled out of their asses now. It’s even mentioned in the Goldstone Report and reported by Amnesty.

There’s plenty of reports about it if you’d care to look it up but probably won’t bother as it doesn’t suit your narrative.

I suppose the best intelligence agencies in the world are not good enough, you know better?

What I find horrendous is that medical staff were apparently well aware but didn’t ask for help as you’d think their first priority was to the safety and lives of their patients. A terrorist base (with terrorist known to kill patients thought to be ‘collaborators’) with munitions storage under a hospital isn’t really conducive to that is it now?

Obviously I’m going to get flamed for that comment but it needs to be said.

Readingallnight · 13/11/2023 23:29

Interesting how all this ‘evidence’ is suddenly materialising now there are no press around to verify.

Humdingerydoo · 13/11/2023 23:29

So on the one hand, the schedule is actually an innocuous calendar, but on the other hand this calendar has clearly been planted there by Israel because it's clean and neatly pinned to the wall? You don't think they would've planted something a bit, I don't know, better?

It's showing that there were people living in the basement of the hospital. You tend not to hang up calendars in uninhabited basements. You also tend not to install ventilation and toilets.

EasterIssland · 13/11/2023 23:31

Humdingerydoo · 13/11/2023 23:29

So on the one hand, the schedule is actually an innocuous calendar, but on the other hand this calendar has clearly been planted there by Israel because it's clean and neatly pinned to the wall? You don't think they would've planted something a bit, I don't know, better?

It's showing that there were people living in the basement of the hospital. You tend not to hang up calendars in uninhabited basements. You also tend not to install ventilation and toilets.

You don't think they would've planted something a bit, I don't know, better?

like the pretty brand new book that was rescued from a child’s room ?
or the manual for raping where you learn how to ask for permission to bring the underwear down?

Readingallnight · 13/11/2023 23:36

Humdingerydoo · 13/11/2023 23:29

So on the one hand, the schedule is actually an innocuous calendar, but on the other hand this calendar has clearly been planted there by Israel because it's clean and neatly pinned to the wall? You don't think they would've planted something a bit, I don't know, better?

It's showing that there were people living in the basement of the hospital. You tend not to hang up calendars in uninhabited basements. You also tend not to install ventilation and toilets.

Toilets and ventilation obviously are not unusual in a lot of basements
Actually to make them usable they have to have ventilation. Even a sealed chimney has ventilation and isn’t fully sealed.

The crappy bit of so called evidence looks too crisp and I’d say it was put there especially for the photo.

Unless of course they are allowing someone independent around with them to prove otherwise.

They’ve already been proved as liars. These kindergarten clues are pathetic.

EnoughIsay · 13/11/2023 23:38

WilmaWonka · 13/11/2023 23:28

It has been known that hospitals in Gaza are used as Hamas bases for many years going back to the early 2000’s, especially Al Shifa.

It’s not something the IDF have just pulled out of their asses now. It’s even mentioned in the Goldstone Report and reported by Amnesty.

There’s plenty of reports about it if you’d care to look it up but probably won’t bother as it doesn’t suit your narrative.

I suppose the best intelligence agencies in the world are not good enough, you know better?

What I find horrendous is that medical staff were apparently well aware but didn’t ask for help as you’d think their first priority was to the safety and lives of their patients. A terrorist base (with terrorist known to kill patients thought to be ‘collaborators’) with munitions storage under a hospital isn’t really conducive to that is it now?

Obviously I’m going to get flamed for that comment but it needs to be said.

TRUE - It has been known that hospitals in Gaza are used as Hamas bases for many years going back to the early 2000’s, especially Al Shifa - NOT ESPECIALLY AL SHIFA BUT RATHER also Al Shifa.

ALSO TRUE - It’s not something the IDF have just pulled out of their asses now. It’s even mentioned in the Goldstone Report and reported by Amnesty.

There’s plenty of reports about it if you’d care to look it up I DON'T NEED TO LOOK IT UO AS I AM AWARE IT IS TRUE but probably won’t bother as it doesn’t suit your narrative. MY "NARRATIVE" IS STOP THE SLAUGHTER.

Next time there is a live "shooter" in a school in the US I suppose the police should blow the whole place up to make sure they get the shooter?

Or the next time there is a bomber on the inderground we should blow it up to make sure we get the bomber?

And so on.

Regarding the conceit that the hospital staff did ask for help, (and implict here I suppose is the notion that they too don't care about the people they are looking after) - I have found in my own life that when things sound too preposperous to be true they often are not true. Or the worst kind of evil - a half truth.

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