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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel has bombed the front of a hospital

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TakeMe2Insanity · 03/11/2023 15:56

Israel has bombed the gates of the Al Shalha hospital.

Everyone knows displaced families are sheltering in and near hospitals.

Israel has bombed the front of a hospital
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Readingallnight · 12/11/2023 13:25

FOJN · 12/11/2023 12:52

Aljazeera are also reporting that the IDF are forcibly evicting patients from hospitals onto the street with nowhere to go. Not confirmed by other news agencies yet.

Israel said they would help all people and patients in the hospital evacuate.
Theyve stuck to their word then?!

Efacsen · 12/11/2023 13:31

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 13:11

Interesting - I've literally just watched a BBC report from a Palestinian hospital where it's said treatment's compromised because "the power has gone out", and in the background of the shot were two working TVs

Hmmm ...

Israel was in the habit of flicking the off switch on Gaza's electrical power long before this current war - so I guess they've learnt to adapt/work round this - re-chargeable batteries/small solar power units etc etc

Takes quite a bit less electricity to power a whole power-hungry hospital than a couple of TV sets?

Or are you suggesting something else? Something deceitful/faked up?

feralunderclass · 12/11/2023 13:49

A maternity hospital was hit yesterday, I saw one woman on the news this morning who was carrying a newborn, she said as soon as the baby was out she was told to flee. She nor the baby had even fed, she was walking the streets with a minutes old baby and didn't know where to go. The scenes are like something out of a far fetched apocalypse film 💔

MissyB1 · 12/11/2023 13:51

Readingallnight · 12/11/2023 13:25

Israel said they would help all people and patients in the hospital evacuate.
Theyve stuck to their word then?!

Why should the sick, injured, and dying have to be “evacuated”?? Why can’t they be allowed to say in hospital? Why should they be forced out? Why can’t the IDF allow them safety in the hospital and ensure they gave full power, water supply, and access to medications? That’s what any civilised organisation would do.

FOJN · 12/11/2023 13:53

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 13:11

Interesting - I've literally just watched a BBC report from a Palestinian hospital where it's said treatment's compromised because "the power has gone out", and in the background of the shot were two working TVs

Hmmm ...

And apparently they don't have food and yet I've just seen footage which included two horses, surely they'd have eaten them if things were that bad.

Hmmm

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 14:13

Takes quite a bit less electricity to power a whole power-hungry hospital than a couple of TV sets?

Perhaps you meant "more", @Efacsen (?) and frankly I was just interested to see them on at all

And no, I'm not at this stage "suggesting" anything. However bearing in mind some of the lies which are being told by all sides I find it best not to automatically assume every claim to be genuine

Readingallnight · 12/11/2023 14:17

MissyB1 · 12/11/2023 13:51

Why should the sick, injured, and dying have to be “evacuated”?? Why can’t they be allowed to say in hospital? Why should they be forced out? Why can’t the IDF allow them safety in the hospital and ensure they gave full power, water supply, and access to medications? That’s what any civilised organisation would do.

Not sure if this is a contradiction,
I was being sarcastic.

Obviously you’re comments are all correct. But this is Israel they are dealing with who clearly are not a civilised organisation….as you put it

Readingallnight · 12/11/2023 14:18

FOJN · 12/11/2023 13:53

And apparently they don't have food and yet I've just seen footage which included two horses, surely they'd have eaten them if things were that bad.

Hmmm

Plus the one they blew up when they bombed the ambulances trying to leave the hospital compound.

untitledmum · 12/11/2023 14:27

Here's a clip of the IDF helping evacuate civilians. Israel is going out of their way to aid the civilians. Yes, they have to evacuate the hospitals as there are tunnels under there and Hamas hiding out there, but they are doing their best, in a difficult situation, not to harm the innocent.

<iframe src="https://www.linkedin.com/embed/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:7129456625999855617?compact=1" height="399" width="710" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Embedded post"></iframe>

Avishai Sam Bitton on LinkedIn: The IDF is at it again, it was just a matter of time until the lie would… | 17 comments

The IDF is at it again, it was just a matter of time until the lie would be exposed! How is the world staying silent when Israeli soldiers are conducting this… | 17 comments on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/embed/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:7129456625999855617?compact=1%22

Motorina · 12/11/2023 14:27

I'm not sure if this has been posted before or not, but Ghassan Abu Sitta, a British Consultant plastic surgeon, has been posting out of Al Ahli hospital.

https://twitter.com/GhassanAbuSitt1

It gives a graphic insight into the reality of conditions. Wound changes with no pain relief, patients dying due to lack of blood, cleaning wounds with vinegar...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 14:32

Here's a clip of the IDF helping evacuate civilians

An odd thing to do, perhaps, for people so often condemned as "genociders"

It won't suit the one-side-only screamers and spitters, that's for sure ...

Readingallnight · 12/11/2023 14:37

untitledmum · 12/11/2023 14:27

Here's a clip of the IDF helping evacuate civilians. Israel is going out of their way to aid the civilians. Yes, they have to evacuate the hospitals as there are tunnels under there and Hamas hiding out there, but they are doing their best, in a difficult situation, not to harm the innocent.

<iframe src="https://www.linkedin.com/embed/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:7129456625999855617?compact=1" height="399" width="710" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Embedded post"></iframe>

Yep.
Because the hospital is right on the beach and oh
look, they’ve all had time to clean their clothes 🤣🤣🤣

MissyB1 · 12/11/2023 14:47

Readingallnight · 12/11/2023 14:17

Not sure if this is a contradiction,
I was being sarcastic.

Obviously you’re comments are all correct. But this is Israel they are dealing with who clearly are not a civilised organisation….as you put it

aaah sorry thats me being an idiot and not reading the whole thread! I misunderstood sorrry.

EnoughIsay · 12/11/2023 15:19

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 13:11

Interesting - I've literally just watched a BBC report from a Palestinian hospital where it's said treatment's compromised because "the power has gone out", and in the background of the shot were two working TVs

Hmmm ...

So we are pretty sure that the WHO, Human Rights Watch, any news organization that is there or there baouts and sheer common sense are totally wrong and lying about power going out?

Because they are stupid enough to reveal themselves by having TV playing in the background of a report?

And thank God for the keen eye of @Puzzledandpissedoff to keep us all informed that actually there really is nothing to see here - it all lies and mendacity made up by a conspiracry of media, international organizations and foolish general public.

PurpleCrocs3 · 12/11/2023 15:22

The media couldn't be any more pro Israel if they tried. Never thought I'd say this but thank god for things like TikTok and twitter for being able to access the truth.

EnoughIsay · 12/11/2023 15:26

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 14:13

Takes quite a bit less electricity to power a whole power-hungry hospital than a couple of TV sets?

Perhaps you meant "more", @Efacsen (?) and frankly I was just interested to see them on at all

And no, I'm not at this stage "suggesting" anything. However bearing in mind some of the lies which are being told by all sides I find it best not to automatically assume every claim to be genuine

However bearing in mind some of the lies which are being told by all sides I find it best not to automatically assume every claim to be genuine

At this point the State of Israel is savage.

There is no more defending it.

Anyone giving room for whatabout has, in their heart of heart, dehumanized the people being terrorized and slaughtered.

This is so over the top there is no coming back for that country or the people who support it.

I supported it until a week ago. Not any more.

I am ashamed.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 15:29

It seems appropriate that sarcasm is said to be the lowest form of wit, EnoughIsay, but rather than suggesting there's "nothing to see here" I merely mentioned something that is there and wondered why - though I do realise it was never going to suit those who prefer to regard every word supporting "their side" as holy writ

Speaking of which, it appears the use of fake stills is becoming worryingly more common: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/11/04/world/gaza-war-image-recycle-harm/

In Israel-Hamas war, recycled images from past conflicts can undercut true toll

Videos and photos of the conflict are competing with misappropriated depictions of unrelated tragedies.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/11/04/world/gaza-war-image-recycle-harm

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 15:34

Never thought I'd say this but thank god for things like TikTok and twitter for being able to access the truth

As so often your first instinct was probably the sensible one, PurpleCrocs3; if it ever reaches the point where we regard these internet sewers as reliable sources of truth then we really are lost

EnoughIsay · 12/11/2023 15:37

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4TNbxBFIj/

But thank God for decent Israelis.

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4TNbxBFIj

EnoughIsay · 12/11/2023 15:40

PurpleCrocs3 · 12/11/2023 15:22

The media couldn't be any more pro Israel if they tried. Never thought I'd say this but thank god for things like TikTok and twitter for being able to access the truth.

We are living in a heavily censored time.

There is less freedom of thought, information and speach than even 10 years ago.

i believe that all these ingerdients will create some sort of a contagion.

There are too many stressors coming from all sides.

stormy4319trevor · 12/11/2023 15:49

Ohlalalalala · 12/11/2023 14:38

It takes a couple of minutes to email your MP and ask them what the UK government and opposition are doing to help save the lives of the remaining babies who have not yet died. Please do email your MP if you are upset about the babies, MPs are obliged to respond and accountability is important.

SharonEllis · 12/11/2023 15:49

sprigatito · 10/11/2023 18:54

@HeidiInTheBigCity has hit the nail on the head. Those who are still bleating "but Hamas" and "release the hostages" after a solid month of illegal and indefensible slaughter in Gaza are indeed those who believe Palestinian lives are fundamentally worth less than Jewish lives.

The question is why everyone else - the world's leaders and governments - are going along with the genocide. The answer, as usual, is power and money. The children being fed into a meat grinder in full view of the world's media don't matter enough to upset the applecart.

All this hyperbole helps no-one.

I think the issue is why does Hamas value its own people less than Israel values hers. Hamas knew exactly what would happen when it invaded Israel - as any invader knows. Why did it have no plan to protect its citizens, while embedding its military capability so thoroughly amongst civilians?

Hiddenmnetter · 12/11/2023 15:51

feralunderclass · 12/11/2023 09:42

Please stop with your because of Hamas doctrine of using human shields civilians have been killed

Israel has been killing civilians, with impunity, for decades. Please do not insult anyone's intelligence by claiming that 11,000 civilians in one month have been killed because Hamas are hiding behind them. And don't dare call them "collateral damage, " these were women like you and me who had the same hopes and dreams for their dc that we do. Israel are firing shots into a paediatric intensive care ward, please do not say "but Hamas!". The world has had enough of the lies!

I’m not saying “but Hamas”.

it’s not “the Israeli’s aren’t so bad because Hamas are doing”. This isn’t whataboutery.

I blame Hamas. They make civilians targets. It is intentional on their part. It is explicitly their strategy. It’s not “but Hamas”. It’s just “Hamas.” That’s what they are. That’s what they do. That’s why civilians are dying. If they wanted to they could confront the IDF directly, and die. And civilians would not. But they won’t, because they know they’ll lose. So they put civilians in harms way. That’s their strategy.

EnoughIsay · 12/11/2023 15:56

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2023 15:29

It seems appropriate that sarcasm is said to be the lowest form of wit, EnoughIsay, but rather than suggesting there's "nothing to see here" I merely mentioned something that is there and wondered why - though I do realise it was never going to suit those who prefer to regard every word supporting "their side" as holy writ

Speaking of which, it appears the use of fake stills is becoming worryingly more common: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/11/04/world/gaza-war-image-recycle-harm/

Look @Puzzledandpissedoff I am not trying in any way, shape or form to be a "wit".

"nothing to see here" I merely mentioned something that is there and wondered why - though I do realise it was never going to suit those who prefer to regard every word supporting "their side" as holy writ

This blows my mind - in the first six days alone of this Israel dropped more than 6,000 bombs on Gaza. They kept going, incrreasing intensity. They have now sent in a ground army.

No one is allowed in as Israel controls all access.

Israel told us they will cut power, water and everything else.

But you are pointing out a tv in the background of a news report to suggest that actually, it is not true cause look - they enough power to run the telly?

Re the fake stills - why won't Israel let anyone in? Whyt will they not allow press in?

Every time a government keep the press out we know shit is going down.

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