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How do prevent the rise of anti Semitic feeling in the UK?

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mids2019 · 03/11/2023 10:09

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12705139/Jewish-ambassador-says-London-feels-safe-Israel-jihad-ideology-exploded-capitals-streets.html

Will the continuous marches in London lead to an environment where anti semitism becomes acceptable? There has been a massive rise in hate crime against Jews and surely in the UK we have a duty to prevent any platform which may lead to unjustified hatred of a group in the UK?

I feel we should feel pride we have a diverse society with a while range of ethnicities and religions but we should always act to encourage social cohesion by not allowing events that could contain messages of hate.

Although the support of the Palestinian people is absolutely reasonable in terms of free speech in a democratic society and it is reasonable to comment on the actions of the Israeli state at times the marches in a lot of major British cities have the danger of including terrorist apologists.

Jewish ambassador says London feels less safe than Israel

Tzipi Hotovely told the Daily Telegraph that the Jewish community felt fear due to 'jihad ideology' witnessed during pro-Palestinian protests in the capital city over the past month.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12705139/Jewish-ambassador-says-London-feels-safe-Israel-jihad-ideology-exploded-capitals-streets.html

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etmoiandme · 26/12/2023 10:13

Not the UK but DC. We're just anti-Zionist, honest

"Let’s go protest Israel!

Where will we protest?
The Israeli embassy?

No, we will go to the holocaust museum of course!!"

https://twitter.com/AyaRaalte/status/1739571972613259701

https://twitter.com/AyaRaalte/status/1739571972613259701

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 15:44

Oh for fucksake!

Yet people keep telling us it isn't Jew hate but concern for Gazens

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck

braticus · 26/12/2023 15:55

It looks like they have cancelled their event

How do prevent the rise of anti Semitic feeling in the UK?
Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 16:03

They are peddling backwards after cocking up their own narrative more like

Seen it happen before and it will happen again. For educated people the lack of thinking and understanding about organising a suitable protest or behaving in a anti racist way seems to escape the medical profession regularly

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 16:07

This

How do prevent the rise of anti Semitic feeling in the UK?
Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 16:27

I would like to know what this was about too

https://twitter.com/LucBernard/status/1739500880142225649

https://twitter.com/LucBernard/status/1739500880142225649

etmoiandme · 26/12/2023 16:58

@Trulywonderful Yes I'd like to know too. It definitely can't be antisemitism though, because I've just found out that apparently people don't have a problem with Jews actually.

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 17:00

etmoiandme · 26/12/2023 16:58

@Trulywonderful Yes I'd like to know too. It definitely can't be antisemitism though, because I've just found out that apparently people don't have a problem with Jews actually.

Oh well that is good to know

Sure you feel reassured after that

😏

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 17:07

This isn't antisemitism but still a right head scratcher

I mean what did the blind children do to deserve this graffiti

Plus Jesus who in the bible went to temple and celebrated Hanukkah was Palestinian???? Hamas would have killed the guy if he was in Gaza today. Not to mention the name Palestinian for the Arabs on the land only caught on in the 60s after Arafat told the Arabs it would further the Arab cause. Love a bit of uneducated and ignorant graffiti to mock but not when it is aimed at blind children, sick idiots

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stomachamaleon · 26/12/2023 17:23

Thank goodness that event has been cancelled. The sheer idiocy of planning that at the Holocaust museum.

noblegiraffe · 26/12/2023 17:33

Watched Stephen Fry's alternative Christmas message, which made a point to also condemn Islamophobia and the losses on both sides of the conflict.

Went to twitter to see what they made of it.

"Stephen Fry is a Zionist cunt"

Rightyho.

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 19:31

noblegiraffe · 26/12/2023 17:33

Watched Stephen Fry's alternative Christmas message, which made a point to also condemn Islamophobia and the losses on both sides of the conflict.

Went to twitter to see what they made of it.

"Stephen Fry is a Zionist cunt"

Rightyho.

Yep

That is the mentality of the idiots we are dealing with out there

Most started on him before the broadcast was even shown and they knew what he said. However they are not antisemitic just antizionist etc apparently. Got to love the anti racist racism of these people. Maybe one day some will stop and reflect on their behaviour in the future but I am not holding my breath.

Xenia · 26/12/2023 20:51

Good for Stephen Fry. The voice of the anti-jewish/Israeli mob (as on that US twitter link above) is loud and in the UK very noisy with marches etc but the UK contains 67m most of whom do not go on marches and are not abusive to others. However the vocal minority seem to think the whole nation supports their viewpoint when in fact the UK and US strongly support Israel, as indeed does Germany and as do many other countries.

Tripper79 · 26/12/2023 21:11

I’ve always like Stephen Fry and I thought the speech was good. The latest YouGov polls though show that support for Israel vs Palestine which was roughly equal in November now shows a drop for Israel and a rise in support for the Palestinians. Majority are still neither or don’t know though.

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Tripper79 · 26/12/2023 21:13

Although the date says Jul 23 so maybe the one that showed equal sympathies was the latest - apologies that could be old data!

Parkingt111 · 26/12/2023 21:19

@Tripper79 the tracker is 6 monthly. The new date will be added in January which will be interesting to see.

braticus · 26/12/2023 21:22

Parkingt111 · 26/12/2023 21:19

@Tripper79 the tracker is 6 monthly. The new date will be added in January which will be interesting to see.

It certainly will.

Parkingt111 · 26/12/2023 21:24

I just listened to Stephen Fry's message so thank you for sharing as i hadn't heard it before. He speaks with such compassion and I appreciated how he mentioned other people suffering too.

noblegiraffe · 26/12/2023 21:30

And I just popped back to twitter to look at the hashtag and this is the sort of thing that's being said.

These people aren't well.

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Tripper79 · 26/12/2023 21:31

Parkingt111 · 26/12/2023 21:19

@Tripper79 the tracker is 6 monthly. The new date will be added in January which will be interesting to see.

Ah ok I didn’t notice the date until I posted it - yes I agree, it will be interesting to see how the data changes.

etmoiandme · 26/12/2023 21:33

@Parkingt111 Yes, he's spoken out in support of Palestinians several times in the past. Something's that's lost on the crowd who have suddenly decided he's Satan.

Parkingt111 · 26/12/2023 21:34

@noblegiraffe is all of that hate based on his talk?? I don't know him but I heard his talk and it sounded very measured to me. Highlighting anti-semitism but also making a point of acknowledging that the Palestinians are suffering too

stomachamaleon · 26/12/2023 21:36

An enigma wrapped up in a conundrum....

Parkingt111 · 26/12/2023 21:36

@etmoiandme that's a rubbish thing to do, and literally just proves the point of his message.

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