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Conflict in the Middle East

6500 Dead: "Creating a severe humanitarian crisis is a necessary means to achieve the goal. Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist" Israeli Military Official

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Ohlalalalala · 25/10/2023 19:16

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.[1][2] Wikipedia

Reservist Major General Giora Eiland told Israeli media on Monday that Israel’s actions in “creating a severe humanitarian crisis is a necessary means to achieve the goal. Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/gaza-is-out-of-fuel-out-of-time-under-israels-bombardment

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/24/israel-hamas-war-live-fuel-shortfall-could-force-un-to-halt-work-in-gaza-2

Oxfam says starvation is being used as a weapon of war against civilians in Gaza, adding just two percent of usual food has been delivered to the enclave since Israel’s “total siege”.

Gaza death toll rises to 6,500, including Al Jazeera correspondent’s family

Al Jazeera Arabic’s Wael Dahdouh’s wife, son and daughter among family members killed after home hit.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/24/israel-hamas-war-live-fuel-shortfall-could-force-un-to-halt-work-in-gaza-2

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Ohlalalalala · 26/10/2023 19:12

Oh God 😭
This is horrible. I am speechless.

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SomeCatFromJapan · 26/10/2023 19:13

Do you say the same about Russia - Ukraine ? Or any other war in the world ?

Realistically it's okay to hope that Hamas is defeated though surely? What is the alternative?
And again realistically, the quicker than happens, the quicker the whole thing will be over.

Please note this isn't me condoning the air strikes at all, it's all pretty horrifying.

Ohlalalalala · 26/10/2023 19:15

7028 Palestinians, including 2913 children, murdered in less than three weeks. How can the world stay silent!

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Efacsen · 26/10/2023 19:17

Wow 88 people from one family?

I don't understand how they have all these names when un-identified bodies are being buried in mass graves

Ohlalalalala · 26/10/2023 19:20

Efacsen · 26/10/2023 19:17

Wow 88 people from one family?

I don't understand how they have all these names when un-identified bodies are being buried in mass graves

Family as in clan.

These are the identified ones. The number is probably bigger unfortunately.

Mass graves = genocide

Not even allowed the dignity of having funerals.

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Efacsen · 26/10/2023 19:26

Ohlalalalala · 26/10/2023 19:20

Family as in clan.

These are the identified ones. The number is probably bigger unfortunately.

Mass graves = genocide

Not even allowed the dignity of having funerals.

Ah thank you

Treaclewell · 26/10/2023 19:34

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Ohlalalalala · 27/10/2023 18:43

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6500 Dead: "Creating a severe humanitarian crisis is a necessary means to achieve the goal. Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist" Israeli Military Official
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MissyB1 · 27/10/2023 20:23

I worry there will be very few Palestinians alive in Gaza tomorrow morning 😢

This is horrific.

Ohlalalalala · 27/10/2023 20:27

MissyB1 · 27/10/2023 20:23

I worry there will be very few Palestinians alive in Gaza tomorrow morning 😢

This is horrific.

😔

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flufferknutter · 27/10/2023 20:28

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That ship sailed a long time ago I'm afraid.

Ididivfama · 27/10/2023 20:33

so when is this stopping?

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Let’s not talk about Jewish people. This is Israeli government.

SomeCatFromJapan · 27/10/2023 21:17

Wtf is it with the constant casual anti-Semitism?

EasterIssland · 27/10/2023 21:23

Ididivfama · 27/10/2023 20:34

Let’s not talk about Jewish people. This is Israeli government.

Think those were the words from Israel’s government yesterday.

etmoietmoietmoi · 27/10/2023 22:10

@SomeCatFromJapan It's not even casual anymore.

ChickHenLittle · 27/10/2023 22:12

MissyB1 · 27/10/2023 20:23

I worry there will be very few Palestinians alive in Gaza tomorrow morning 😢

This is horrific.

Exactly what I am thinking. I don't even have the words for how awful it is. Shame on every government that silently stands by and says nothing.

SomeCatFromJapan · 27/10/2023 22:14

@etmoietmoietmoi I genuinely had no idea how widespread and pervasive it is. I'm appalled.

ChickHenLittle · 27/10/2023 22:20

I would encourage you to report any discriminatory posts. MNHQ tend to take such reports very seriously, in my experience.

1dayatatime · 27/10/2023 22:21

So the way these threads generally work is:

  1. Excuse my ignorance as I don't know much about the Arab Israeli conflict but could someone please explain to me [insert something emotive]
  2. post some factually incorrect comments and deny certain events took place
  3. when countered / challenged or corrected immediately shift to whataboutery
  4. quickly moving on to conspiracy theories
  5. once seeds of doubt are planted revert back to denial

The thing is both sides of this debate are driven by conviction and will dismiss any factual information that shows their comments to be fake news. Nothing will ever change both sides views and unless we stop emotive opinions and instead stick to the facts then it will be impossible to reach a peaceful solution.

Ohlalalalala · 27/10/2023 22:21

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"Vengeance is a dead-end. The only path forward is justice." In a powerful address to the UN General Assembly, Palestinian representative Riyad Mansour begged members to finally act and stop Israel's war on Gaza. Jordan introduced a new resolution on the crisis, after four others failed at the Security Council.

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BurbleBumleBleep · 27/10/2023 22:21

What is wrong with the male of our species?

Serious question. It’s them always.
We know how empires, countries, religions pan out now. And yet…

ChickHenLittle · 27/10/2023 22:23

Ohlalalalala · 27/10/2023 22:21

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4MUYrvKwV/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

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"Vengeance is a dead-end. The only path forward is justice." In a powerful address to the UN General Assembly, Palestinian representative Riyad Mansour begged members to finally act and stop Israel's war on Gaza. Jordan introduced a new resolution on the crisis, after four others failed at the Security Council.

This is so, so sad. 😔

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