If you are pro Israel when is enough killing enough?

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Plenty of people have repeated “1400 Israeli’s were killed on 7/10”, but when is actually enough? The count is above 5000 in Gaza alone. Seriously when is enough enough?

OK, so it's disputed.

When the troops debrief IDF command will get the answers.

This is probably why IDF haven't commented yet, as they don't have the full facts. When they do we will probably get a statement.

@Ladyjanegreysketle they aren't in that area anymore, which is how the Palestinians discovered the vehicle and burnt ambulance.
Unless you mean you want to wait till after the war is over

It was about 10 weeks ago IIRC - not very prompt with the de-briefing?

It's always difficult to dispute hostage testimony - for obvious reasons

But sounds like another very good reason not to target ambulances if they could be transporting hostages?

You seriously have a problem because the IDF doesn't work to your timescale ?!

Don't you think 2 and a half months is a long time to get their story straight?

I think the point is the ambulances are more often used to transport terrorists and weapons than hostages. But you know that. You're just trying to be clever and find yet another reason for why everything Israel says or does is pure evil. It's almost like there's some sort of agenda being pushed

"they aren't in that area anymore,"

Maybe not but they (IDF) will have bodycam footage that is timed and dated.

"Unless you mean you want to wait till after the war is over"

What I want hardly matters to the IDF and in any event I wouldn't presume to suggest to any army how they should prosecute a war.

Yes I do think a lot of what the Israeli government and IDF do is extremely questionable and a view shared by the ICJ and recent comments by Israels closest allies in the Biden administration

You're just trying to be clever and find yet another reason for why everything Israel says or does is pure evil.

This is just childish name-calling which doesn't deserve a response

Again - what I think doesn't matter.

The IDF doesn't work to your or my timescale.

If it really is getting between you and your sleep, why not contact your MP and ask him/her/they to raise it in the appropriate quarter.

https://www.writetothem.com/

Now can you please give it a rest here?.

We know there's an agenda being pushed and when people push back they get verbally abused.
Shows they are losing the propaganda war.

What a bizarre response

https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/hamas-admits-using-ambulances-to-transport-weapons-terrorist-in-leaked-phone-call-palestine-israel-war-strike-fighting-gaza-strip-middle-east-humanitarian-crisis-israel-defense-forces

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-military-says-hit-an-ambulance-being-used-by-hamas-2023-11-03/

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/israel-accuses-un-chief-of-lying-over-hamas-illicit-use-of-ambulances/articleshow/104992233.cms?from=mdr

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-772341?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral

And where did those 'publications' get their information from?

It's a circular argument that is more to do with propaganda than facts

Clearly Reuters is a proper publication but also received the information from the IDF

Montana
first sentence: The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) released

reuters first sentence The Israeli military said

times of India an Israeli military spokesman said.

jpost interrogation released by the IDF

I’ll ask again the same sentence

do you have proof about what you are saying verified by someone else or are we going to believe everything idf says.

"I’ll ask again the same sentence"

and I'll give the same answer which is, that until we have a debrief from the IDF that's all we're going to get.

@Efacsen "It's a circular argument that is more to do with propaganda than facts"

OK if you think that then don't believe it, it doesn't matter to me, the IDF or Wonko the Wonder Dog, what you think! 🙄

@Efacsen "What a bizarre response"

Why?

I'm just trying to be helpful, as nothing I say seems to satisfy you. I suggested another avenue that might give you the answers you want.

Sorry I bothered.

Also , even if what you’re saying is true that doesn’t give the right to Israel to target every ambulances and doctors. They’re not all Hamas members. Don’t kill civilians

I won't discuss this any more until we have more information, and I suggest you do the same.

“and I suggest you do the same.”

🤔 not sure whether telling others what to talk or not talk about is really forum - friendly.

I was 'suggesting' not 'telling'.

Posters are viewing things through very different lenses. Some will believe the IDF until it's proved otherwise and even then struggle to accept it, others won't believe anything that comes from the IDF until independently verified and I'm pretty sure no one believes Hamas.

No suggestion it was Hamas or that it wasn't the IDF. That's why I asked where have you seen suggestions, other than the rhetoric here, that there is the potential Hamas are responsible for it? I don't think it's a case of critical thinking more like wishful thinking.