To think Hamas have given Israel the excuse they were looking for?

[MistyMooPup]

Not all of Israel. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he will obliterate Hamas. But undoubtedly hundred if not thousands of civilians will now be killed.

I’m not sure what Hamas thought the end game if this would be? What have the Iranians convinced them of? This was a sophisticated operation, outside help was given for definite.

I’m not sure it’s possible to rationalise with dehumanised terrorists, neither am I sure what the end game will be, but I just can’t understand what Hamas expected if not a total war/strikes from Israel in retaliation.

@Dibblydoodahdah can you just go ahead and condemn the war crimes

(Collective punishment is a war crime - chapter 5 article 33 of the Geneva Convention

being perpetrated on Palestinians by Israel Government then.

Shouldn't be hard now should it

I'll wait.....

It happened / happens with Russia and Ukraine too. Is that also anti-Semitic or is it more a concern about the use of propaganda during wars?

@beachcitygirl I have made it quite clear that I don’t approve of Israel’s previous actions or current actions. You just haven’t bothered to read my comments properly.

There’s so many ghouls, one even on this thread claiming the reports of beheaded Israeli babies was false

Whether it's false or not, I do hope you're not surprised - there are after all folk who still deny the holocaust too, and when provided with proof will revert to the usual minimisation

Sorry @Dibblydoodahdah it's not clear. Can you make it clear or quote tweet where you unequivocally condemned

@Puzzledandpissedoff I suspect that poster (liar) is referring to myself.

There have been for 3 days conflicting reports by respected media organisations including BBC & CNN & White House & the economist

Reporters from bbc world saying one things & bbc saying another.

I pleaded for people to wait until
This was confirmed before taking as gospel.

I pray its untrue like any decent human & was clinging to that.
It is still unclear. CNN latest statement saying it's not true.

The babies on both sides are still dead but like most mums I had a guttural anguish and horror at that particular report.

Propaganda in war is rife & can cause real life consequences.

Be that hatred & supporting collective punishment of Palestinians
Or
Hateful anti- semitism to Israelis and or Jews world wide.

Truth matters

I want facts.
I want international law upheld
I want the Geneva Convention upheld
I want peace
I want this horror show of death to stop.

I can't believe there are people on here & there seems to be, that think an Israeli baby is worth more than a Palestinian baby.

All babies are precious & to be protected EQUALLY

Have we collectively learned nothing.

What are you actually trying to achieve by continually harassing me? A distraction away from the fact you were denying the slaughter of babies. You have a real problem.

You might want to read this, it explains how the hamas attack works in both sides favour

https://hwfo.substack.com/p/moloch-in-the-middle-east

Again, you are making things up. No one has said that an Israeli baby is worth more than a Palestinian baby. In fact, I posed a question about what Israel should do now; do nothing and risk further attacks and the killing of 1000’s more Israeli children or attack and risk killing 1000’s of Palestinian children. I didn’t say that one was better than the other.

The amount of dead Palestinians has already reached the same number as dead Israelis, so the only way is up for the amount of Palestinian deaths.

@Dibblydoodahdah

Just condemn it and stop your whataboutery

What was it Biden said today.
Ah, got it

"Silence is complicity"

@beachcitygirl And repeat:

“I have made it quite clear that I don’t approve of Israel’s previous actions or current actions.”

Please do share where anyone has said that a Palestinian baby is worth less than an Israeli baby.

don't approve isn't unequivocal condemnation. Just an fyi. Happy to help.

Oh & Tell you what love - I'll share that when you share where I justified Hamas behaviour- deal.

What the fuck are you talking about? Over 260 people were killed at the festival this has been reported by every single reputable news source.

As has the murder of babies and children.

Who is paying you to post these lies?

I've reported your post @Britsy Why would you post something like that?

Offensive misinformation

Britsy · Today 21:08

No people were killed at the festival, this was another false propaganda spread by the media along with saying that babies had been killed and beheaded which was also not true.

Absolutely despicable. I suppose that the Holocaust didn't happen either! Even for a low life, which you undoubtedly are, or someone trying to stir the pot, your comments are sick.

There are those who will deny any murder or torture of Jewish people, no matter if it's historical or if it just happened. No matter how extensively it's documented by the victims and the perpetrators.

There are just a lot of people who are really invested in denying any of the horrendous crimes carried out against Jewish victims.

I don't have the mental or emotional energy to debate why they feel compelled to do that.

I just know, and realised a long time ago, that there are many people who could see video evidence of me, my daughter, my sister, my mother, raped and murdered, and would find a way to deny or excuse or justify it, simply because we are Jews.

This is a very very hard week to be Jewish. I am so grateful to every one of my non Jewish friends who has reached out to me. It means the world. Xx

I've also reported. MN can you please ban this poster.

Don’t love me. I have never once on this thread said that I support Israel’s actions. I originally posted because someone said that they might behave like Hamas if their back was up against the wall (i.e. they were justifying killing babies, raping women etc.). I called them out on that because it is utterly sick. Even if someone was killing my beautiful babies I could not kill theirs in retaliation.

On multiple occasions you have either denied that the killing of 40 babies happened or suggested that they were killed in some other way (as if that makes it better). You had no proof of that but were shouting about other people having no proof of it happening. How do you think your denials will make a Jewish person who has had to suffer Holocaust deniers throughout their life feel?! Read the room, have some fucking sensitivity.

And for the last couple of hours you have been attacking me, suggesting that I support Israel’s actions. Why?! I have said that I don’t know what they should do next because I don’t know. I wish I had an answer. Why is my measured and reasonable response not good enough for you?

@Britsy
You do realise that you may have committed an offence contrary to to section 127(1) of the Communications Act 2003, for electronically publishing grossly offensive information. Particularly if you felt that there would be Jewish people on this thread.

Yes, it is ridiculous when people do that and furthers no ones cause. It's the same as when people say that Israel aren't targeting civilians while they commit war crimes and carpet bomb a whole area. Pathetic and helps no one.

You can support the palestinians while still condemning hamas. Just like you can support Israeli civilians while condemning government sanctioned genocide.

Thank you MN for taking such quick action against such an abhorrent post.

Whataboutery is to say

What about Hamas
What about Israeli government
They did it too👉

Pp didn't do any whatabouting