TTC after chemical pregnancy

[LucyCL]

I had a MC this Jan , 6 weeks and 1 day. Then I had a CP last Tuesday, 4 weeks and 6 days. I finally stopped bleeding today. Two pregnancies and two MCs so far.

I would like to know what your ttc experiences were like after CP. I admit I felt so lost when I saw the line getting fainter and I have been feeling very low and anxious for the last 7 days. However it is not healthy and it is time to be positive! So, I will be trying again this month. That is why I decided to start this thread.

@LucyCL i love the commitment! 😂

i forgot, did you confirm ovulation with BBT?

im not sure I ovulated my last cycle because it lasted about 50000 years, or if I did, I definitely missed the boat as we stopped DTD at about CD 23 and I got my +OPK CD30 😂

I really hope that the CB digital, e@h, and BBT all line up this month! I wouldn’t be surprised if my CB digital gave me a static so early because I still had a tiny bit of HGC in my system (my hormones were all over the place those first 2 weeks!).

Will start bd’ing day after AF ends (whenever that may be) and just carry on until a few days after O day (and maybe some more just for luck!)

going to also be drinking Maca powder this cycle - I did it first cycle but not last cycle so will get back on it (not sure if it makes a difference though!).

@LucyCL do you have your BBT from your CP cycle and last cycle with AF? Would be interesting to see how they differ!

Yes, I did confirm ovulation with BBT.
I will start BD’ing when AF ends and continue until 6 dpo. That is my commitment!
I have heard about Maca powder. Is there a brand you can recommend?

The post CP cycle
BBT chart and figures

last normal cycle with AF
BBT chart and figures

@LucyCL ah your bbt and LH strips are spot on matching!! Is O day the day after your temp drops?

ah sorry I meant your cycle when you were pregnant? Would like to see how high BBT stays!

Maca powder wise I use the one pictured. Just to warn you, it tastes disgusting. You can put it in smoothies etc but it’s honestly better putting it with water and just downing it. I’m not sure on serving size but I just do a teaspoon and enough water to dilute and just get it down!

This is the normal cycle which lasted for 37 days before I got my 1st BFP
BBT chart and figures

The cycle when I got the 1st BFP
BBT chart and figures

21/1/24 -3/4/24
I ovulated on CD14/15

Yes, the O day is after BBt drops, usually.

Thank you for the maca powder and the warning!:)

The cycle when I got the second BFP
BBT chart and figures

@LucyCL thank you! I just wanted to see the downward / upward trend of AF vs pregnancy. However, I’ll probably stop after I confirm ovulation as I think testing would make me obsessive and depressed if I saw it dip haha!

my first test this morning was 36.41 but I woke up super early for some reason (5am) but will just have to do it moving forward as soon as I wake up! I’m excited to see a pattern and if I’ll ovulate!

predicted ov is 29th June but I think mine will be a bit later as flo has changed my average cycle length from 31 to 34 (due to pregnancy cycle being 40 days and last cycle being 43 days).

My af is still only brown blood, still haven’t hit the full red flow yet which concerns me but the brown blood is still enough to fill a pad so will see what the next few days brings.

how are you getting on?

CD5
Bleeding: very light
Mira: Pdg and LH dropped. E3G is slightly lower than the normal range. They are normal as AF is expected to end today.
RHR: Yesterday was 59 BPM and this morning is 71 BPM. It will go down to 60 tonight (I assume).
Wrist temperature: Still need 1 more night

Overall: Today is very likely to be the last day of my period!

The length of my period is getting back from 7 days to 5 days which is a good sign. So I wonder if I will also ovulate on CD15 (the previous normal O day before my 1st MC)... We will see.
Even you get out of the bed in the early morning then go back to bed, BBT is still ok take when you wake up later because it is the trend/curve/pattern we are relying on.

My hormone levels were affected my 1st MC in March and the first proper period I got lasted for 7 days which was 2 days longer than my normal 5 day period.
I think you are also experiencing the same thing. Although it is the first period you get, CP (also your 1st MC) has affected your hormone levels and period length.
I started to take Vitamin D, E, B6 and C as extra supplements in March to balance my hormone levels. I think they are working because my post CP cycle lasted for 34 days which is within normal range and this period after the post CP cycle lasts for 5 days.
If I didn't taken them, I think my post CP cycle and my period would have been longer. You could consider taking them.

something interesting I read in case anyone is going through the same thing!

brown blood could be because of an anovulatory cycle - my blood could be brown blood leftover from the previous cycle.

it makes sense I may not have ovulated last cycle with my 3 days of positive LH (cycle before that was 1 day of positives) and it been a VERY long cycle (43 days). It seemed like my body did try and ovulate throughout the cycle as my LH was high (for me) a few times.

ultimately, it’s all guesswork at this point and I’ll just have to keep going and see what happens!

Thank you and please keep us updated! Your information is really useful and I didn't know you could have brown blood due to an anovulatory cycle. I will keep an eye on my future periods if that happens. So far my bleeding has been red.

Here is what I found:
During menstruation, iron and vitamins C and K are important.

In the follicular phase, add in choline, antioxidants, and liver support.

Zinc, vitamin E and omega 3s are vital for ovulation

B6, Magnesium, iodine and potassium in the luteal phase.

Summary

The entire cycle
Vitamin D: It plays a vital role in ovarian follicular development or egg maturation. It increases progesterone and estrogen levels.

Ovulation:
Vitamin E: It decreases testosterone and LH levels whereas it increases progesterone and FSH levels.

Luteal phase:
Vitamin B6: It can help increase progesterone and decrease estrogen. It helps your luteal phase, when your uterus is more receptive to pregnancy

It is safe to take prenatal vitamins, folic acid, omega 3 and Vitamin D
Menstruation: Iron, Vitamin C and Vitamin K
Ovulation: Vitamin E, Zinc
Luteal phase: Vitamin B6, Magnesium

https://www.avogel.co.uk/health/periods/eating-for-different-phases-of-your-menstrual-cycle/#:~:text=Different%20nutrients%20support%20our%20bodies,%2C%20antioxidants%2C%20and%20liver%20support.

I think I have found my true RHR baseline, 59 BPM.

@LucyCL one of my messages didn’t sent because MumsNet need to approve it for some reason 😂

my bleeding is actually getting lighter and not really there now. I’ve been trying to Google and have seen a whole host of different things - breakthrough bleeding, implantation bleeding etc. not really sure what it is. Could just be breakthrough from anovulatory period (and therefore shedding old blood).

normally I get really bad cramps but they’re not as noticeable. Same with sore boobs but maybe my body needs another day?

tbh my pregnancy/pre natal vitamin contains most of this vitamins already so I think I’m safe and will stick that that! Will also be drinking Maca every other day!

Will let you know what happens!

Hi guys just to update from my last post,
midwife called this morning to confirm hcg is 10 from 17, 48 hours ago so it has been a chemical pregnancy. My bleeding seems to be stopping, now occasional brown, so I only had blood for 2.5 days and was never heavy and only when I wiped, and barely ever on the pad.
im gutted but I knew something was wrong. I think I’m more gutted because I’m 39 and have never managed to get pregnant or even a positive test until now. I have only started ovulating properly the last 6 months.
thanks for the info the last few days.

Sorry to read that is has been confirmed, it’s heart breaking
I am also 39 so I know how you’re feeling. Im
not going say “at least you know you can catch” it’s not helpful , but let’s both try and take a small positive from it.
fingers crossed we get through this storm soon because most storms have a 🌈 xx

Although this is the first real period after CP, I am feeling a bit scared.
Because in the second cycle after my 1st MC, I got pregnant then CP happened.
Now this is the second cycle after my 2nd MC(CP), I am worried if the same thing is going to happen to me again.