TTC after chemical pregnancy

[LucyCL]

I had a MC this Jan , 6 weeks and 1 day. Then I had a CP last Tuesday, 4 weeks and 6 days. I finally stopped bleeding today. Two pregnancies and two MCs so far.

I would like to know what your ttc experiences were like after CP. I admit I felt so lost when I saw the line getting fainter and I have been feeling very low and anxious for the last 7 days. However it is not healthy and it is time to be positive! So, I will be trying again this month. That is why I decided to start this thread.

You have been bleeding for 3 days and now it is almost finished. Your first period is really light. How long did your period usually last before CP?

It was really light after your CP. Everyone's body is different so it makes sense. Did you do a pregnancy test again today to make sure it is negative? If it is stark white, it means everything has been reset and your body will get back to normal and ovulate.

I do need some courage from your words because I am afraid to miscarry again. However fingers crossed for all of us and we can do it!

I’m so sorry! If you need anyone to talk to, we’re all here ❤️ it can be quite lonely!

I did tell my parents, my in-laws and my brother just for support (my MIL also have an MC years and years ago so it was nice to have someone who understood!).

There’s nothing I can say to make you feel better so just be kind to yourself 🫶🫶🫶

it does get easier!

let yourself be sad and feel crap because it’s a rubbish situation and just try again whenever you are ready!

Not even sure I can call this a period! My periods before MC were fairly heavily first few days and then the rest was light and finished with brown blood. I did usually spot before but never this ‘heavy’ and never this long.

they always had a day of intense cramps as well and I haven’t had this (yet!).

they usually lasted about 5 days (sometimes 6). There’s nothing there really now when I wipe or in my pad so not sure what it could be? Maybe a breakthrough bleed from an anovulatory cycle - that seems to be the most logical explanation!

I see.
I found a comment like this:
My “periods” didn’t feel like periods at all. A hormone specialist diagnosed me with Abnormal Uterine Bleeding. She said the bleeding can show up the same time as your period week but it’s not a real period because there aren’t any menstrual cramps and the flow is way too light, plus there’s multiple days of spotting. It basically happens because of low estrogen, and because there’s not enough estrogen to cause normal period cramps and normal period flow, that means that you won’t ovulate that cycle, because the “period” you had was not a real period.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FAMnNFP/comments/16q82tn/do_anovulatory_bleeds_feel_different_from_normal/

Only my DH knows about my 2 MCs. I haven't told anyone because I don't know how they are going to react towards me. So mumsnet is the only place I can get support from. I am also happy to give support to someone like me and others.

i think I read that as well! It seems like it might have been an anovulatory cycle (and the multiple positive OPKs was my body trying to ovulate). Not surprising but also sort of relieved that I didn’t catch a sticky because my CP messed me up (if that’s what this is, it’s our best guess without actual confirmation!).

I don’t think it’s abnormal uterine bleeding (just googled it) but does sound like breakthrough bleeding from not ovulating.

Will count this as my new cycle and hopefully ovulate as per normal!

hopefully this is help for someone else reading it but can’t control anything at this point so will just carry on as normal!

https://proovtest.com/blogs/blog/spotting-or-period

There are 4 types of physiological bleeding that may occur at various stages of a woman’s reproductive life. All of these can manifest as spotting.

Intermenstrual Bleeding
Breakthrough Bleeding
Withdrawal Bleeding
Implantation Bleeding

Intermenstrual Bleeding
This is bleeding that happens in between true menstrual bleeds. It may occur without ovulation in the previous cycle and is therefore not true menstruation.

It occurs because there was an estrogen rise from a developing follicle. This rising estrogen causes the lining of the uterus to thicken. The hormonal cause of intermenstrual bleeding can be either a rise or drop in estrogen.

If you have 2 or more cycles with intermenstrual bleeding, consult a knowledgeable women’s health physician who can help you learn the underlying cause.

Breakthrough Bleeding
If there is follicular development within the ovary, there will be a rise in estrogen. Rising estrogen from the follicle in the ovary tells the lining of the uterus to thicken.

If estrogen is high, bleeding occurs due to leaking from a thickened endometrium.

Withdrawal Bleeding
Hormonally the opposite of breakthrough bleeding, withdrawal bleeding happens when ovarian production of estrogen drops. Dropping estrogen leaves the lining of the uterus unsupported. An unsupported uterine lining will shed.

Menstruation can be thought of as a withdrawal bleed because it is caused by a drop off in estrogen. True menstruation, unlike an anovulatory withdrawal bleeding, is also due to a drop off in progesterone which is made by the empty follicle that luteinized into something called a corpus luteum.

Implantation Bleeding
Implantation bleeding occurs 10-14 days after conception during early pregnancy. After conception, there is rapid human development as the new life travels through the fallopian tube to the uterus.

After the journey down the tube, the new life that is now an embryo burrows into the thickened lining. This burrowing can cause some of the uterine lining to discharge out of the vagina as blood. Implantation bleeding is usually light to very light.

Important: If you are concerned with the frequency, heaviest, or any pain associated with any bleeding, please consult a women’s health physician.

@LucyCL thank you! Would love for it to be implantation bleeding 😂😂 can’t really diagnose myself or do anything except wait it out!

going to carry on as normal and count this as a new cycle and will do OPKs once a day. When is best to start doing them twice a day? I guess I’m currently on CD3.

Reading comments of those who shared their CP experience here makes me think I know nothing about CP/other MCs and types of bleeding. Also your new cycle is also going to be different from what I know about a normal cycle. I wish I could help you to tell you what is to come but I can't. 😔
So if I were you, as soon as you stop bleeding, I'd do OPKs in the early morning and around 5 p.m in the afternoon to monitor the ovulation.
Yes, you are on CD3 and your "period" is finished already. Does it mean you are going to do OPKs starting from tomorrow?

@LucyCL as with all things ttc, it’s best to take it day by day. No point wondering what will happen tomorrow so just going to focus with what’s happening today!

I started doing OPKs yesterday, but just once. So going to keep doing just once until about CD8/10 and then start twice daily and my CB digital!

how are you getting on with everything?

@LucyCL potential update… think I’m about to start a ‘full flow’ so the spotting might have been my body pushing out all the old cp (maybe exacerbated by DTD?)! Whenever that starts, that will be CD1!

With any MCs, we do have to see what happens day by day and the past data/pattern is all irrelevant...😕
I will follow what you said and take it as it comes!
I stopped bleeding as I expected. So far so good.
I started BD'ing and I will only take folic acid, vitamin D, omega 3 fish oil and prenatal vitamins. I hope everything is going according to plan, nothing abnormal or unknown.

If your flow is red, then this will be your CD1! At least, we know your body has gotten rid of the old blood from CP. It is positive news!!😀

CD6 Everything has been reset.

No bleeding.

PdG, E3G and LH are very low as expected.

BBT, RHR and wrist temperature are stable. I can see a similar increasing trend in these 3 charts.

I bought Tempdrop and Ovusense, just because I am curious. They are arriving next week.

Also I will do a fertility assessment which includes an ultrasound and a blood test next Monday. This is for letting me know where I am in this second cycle after CP for peace of mind.

LH: no changes.

@LucyCL let me know how your testing goes!

my CD1 is officially today! Bad cramping and full flow has started and that’s what I always count as the first day of a new cycle. Finally good to get answers though, going to stop trying to diagnose myself each day and look at the bigger picture.

im enjoying taking BBT though, went down today whilst LH went up (probably because of AF)!

It is always a relief to finally know what is happening to your body. : )
Yes, BBT drops when AF arrives and there is a rise in LH too. This is what happened to me as well. Very good sign!
Your today's BBT is your baseline BBT. You will rely on it a lot in the future.

@LucyCL good to know!

glad we are on this journey together too as I see so many people get BFPs straight away so it’s comforting knowing it’s normal to not get one first cycle back.

im hoping my cycle goes back to normal this month! I should hopefully stop bleeding by CD6! Will save my OPKs for then too now I know I’m officially CD1 today and not guessing and diagnosing myself with random bleeds lol.

my O day has been pushed to 1st July (CD17) but I imagine it might be a bit later than that as per my first cycle which was CD21!)

I might come back here every sat/sun and do a little chart update!

I’m sorry, @Maxi224. We’re quite close in timings. I’ve managed to not cry the past couple of days, which is something at least!

@LucyCL Just my Apple Watch at the moment but I’d love to hear which you prefer, I’m definitely going to get one!

I stopped bleeding yesterday - it was really heavy but a day shorter than my usual periods. OPK was quite dark for CD6 this morning, but then I had a weird bit of random spotting, so who knows what that means.

Ive got my fingers crossed for all of us this month!

@GreenPickle @YouveGotAFastCar @Maxi224 I know that we are starting new cycles more or less and I hope all of us will get our BFPs soon! Sending positive vibes to all of us!!

I will update my BBT, Mira, RHR, LH and wrist temperature charts once a week. It makes sense to show the weekly trend instead of updating daily figures.
When I start using Tempdrop and ovusense, I will also update the charts weekly here.
Will also update on the result of the fertility assessment within two weeks.

Well I fell down a google rabbit hole last night 😭

had my CD3 bloods back which on the app say are all normal and within the normal ranges .

But the oestradiol is on the lower end of normal and panicking that’s why I had a CP. The GP who is not going to be a fertility expert will prob just say it’s in the normal range.

FSH 5.2
LH 1.7
oestradiol <88 (77-921 normal ranges)

Having a panic xx

Hi all, so sorry for all the ladies here who have experienced losses ❤️ could I jump on the thread please as currently experiencing what I believe to be a chemical at 4.5 weeks.

This was pregnancy number 3 after a MMC at 9 weeks in 2020 then having DD in 2021. Currently TTC baby number 2 and thought it was too good to be true getting caught on our first cycle trying and turns out it was 😔 I got a faint positive at 14dpo which got darker over the next couple of days and clear blue 1-2 weeks but the tests then started to fade. Waiting to start bleeding atm after getting a pretty much negative test this morning.

Im hoping to get straight back to trying next cycle 🤞