Short luteal phase?

[JuniperandI]

Hi ladies

I have a short LP, about 9-10 days. Anyone else in the same boat? Have you managed to get pregnant with a short LP? Any advice would be very welcome!

@buttercupbee congratulations! 🥰 what cycle is this? Did you have any symptoms do you think?

@BCxx thank you 🥰 I’m on cycle 3, but I had a UTI and was on antibiotics around ovulation so really wasn’t expecting it to happen this month! I haven’t really had many symptoms except sore boobs and feeling tired, although I get both of these before AF anyway. I also had some pink/brown when wiping yesterday morning, I thought for sure AF was on her way but when she hadn’t shown up this morning I decided to test and couldn’t believe it 🥹

@buttercupbee ah so it was implantation! How brilliant! Huge congratulations. Funny, I was also ill when I conceived (also cycle #3). I initially thought that as my immune system was on high alert I had no chance... but then I thought maybe it was distracted 😂

@Carlotta27 are you only using OPKs to track ovulation? I kept missing my peak with those tests but BBT showing that I was ovulating. You may have a really short surge and have missed it?

Hi @DesertSnow that’s a really good shout!

I tried BBT my first month and I thought issues like varying bedroom temp and sometimes having an elevated temp due to anxiety gave me no pattern. It probably requires patience and perseverance so I will get back on it as it may well be that OPKs (and I am into doing them 1x a day) is not enough … x

Congratulations @buttercupbee such exciting news!! 🥰🥰🥰

@DesertSnow thank you! It must have been, I was so sure it was AF on the way as it looked the same as my usual spotting. I was the same, thought I was definitely out! How is everything going with you? Any more symptoms?

@LS888 thank you so much 🥰 this thread is so lovely and supportive x

Not sure if it will help anyone and it may be coincidence but this cycle I took 1000mg vitamin C and vitamin B complex as well as folic acid. I also drank pomegranate juice every day for about a week after ovulation. We used pre seed as well although also used that last month and didn’t get a positive

@buttercupbee must have been implantation then, maybe even just the old blood coming away if it was only yesterday! I’m taking these vitamins this month 😊 we used preseed when I got pregnant with my son but had used it for two cycles. Only difference was I used a lot more the successful month! What does pomegranate juice do? runs to shop

cd14… 14!! and I think I’m about to get my peak opk tonight 🎉 I’m just praying that that will mean I still last til cd28 so have a way longer LP than the last few cycles! Either it’s complete coincidence or maca root has actually helped

@BCxx I've heard lots of different things about maca root - let me know how it works for you!

@BCxx that’s great news, fingers crossed for a longer LP! Pomegranate juice after ovulation is supposed to be good for progesterone levels. Not sure how true it is but worth a try 😊

@buttercupbee well it can’t do any harm 😊 will give it a try!

@buttercupbee congratulations, that’s wonderful!

@DesertSnow thanks, reassuring to know others have had issues with OPKs. I haven’t tracked BBT as my temp was all over the place when I first tried, but might try again along with a new set of OPKs (have bought the easy@home and the clear blue digital to try it all next month!).

I do wonder if I was testing too early in the day as we were on hols I couldn’t really test in afternoon. But I did test most evenings, again maybe didn’t hold long enough… Now on CD18 but going to continue testing for a few more days to rule out a late peak. Although CM has changed already (had a few days of EWCM last week) so I expect I’ve missed it. We won’t be able to try in Dec as I’m away over xmas so I’ll try look at that positively as a data collection month!

Also started taking 1000mg Vit C, B complex and folic acid so will see if that has any impact on my end of cycle spotting.

I spoke to DH who doesn’t want to be too regimented about scheduling DTD, and wants to try more naturally. But there are months where we only end up DTD once a week so i explained if we carry on that way it might take years which isn’t okay at 34 🙈

So we compromised - he understands why I want to know what’s happening with my body so I’m going to carry on with “data collection” (lol) but we’ll still only DTD if we feel like it, and not for a it, at least for now.

Sorry for rambling, I’ve found it so helpful relating to all of your stories and views! Xx

@Carlotta27 @Sierra26 BBT does take a bit of practise, but it became automatic pretty quickly for me. Really helped me to establish a pattern and pinpoint ovulation, but it's about what works for you.

@Sierra26 The pressure of DTD to a schedule can be hard - it's a tricky one as timing is so crucial. A compromise sounds good, and you could always just be extra seductive when you know you should be DTD in your fertile window, rather than telling him you should be getting on it 😆

@buttercupbee I was the same - I was 100% convinced AF was coming on the day of implantation because my temp plummeted and I had such AF-like cramps and I was very weepy. I would have bet good money on it, but here we are! You must also be due August? My symptoms are still much the same - mostly just exhausted and sore boobs. But I still don't 'feel' pregnant (not that I have anything to compare it to). Seen lots of ladies complaining of nausea etc. and while obviously nausea is deeply unpleasant, I think at least it might make it feel a bit more real...

@DesertSnow thanks for that! Which brand of bbt thermometer do you use? I’m wondering whether the cheap Amazon I have is the issue … x

@Carlotta27 I used the Femometer one www.amazon.co.uk/Femometer-Thermometer-Fertility-Ovulation-Automatically/dp/B07VF464QD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1NR9SND20YJ2Z&keywords=bbt%2Bthermometer%2Bfor%2Bovulation%2Bfemometer&qid=1669712204&sprefix=bbt%2Bthermometer%2Bfor%2Bovulation%2Bfemometer%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

You can definitely have a few odd temperatures e.g. after a bad night's sleep but if you use an app like Fertility Friend you have the option to discard some temperatures, and you should still be able to identify a pattern and notice a temp shift after ovulation.

@DesertSnow thank you. Think I’ll order that brand!

another q for you all which I’ve found conflicting info online on! Do you start counting day one of the LP on the day of ovulation or the day after ? Every little counts for us !

@Carlotta27 from the day after ovulation... Much as I would love to have claimed the extra day 😔 Good luck with the thermometer, shout if you have any questions ☺️

@DesertSnow thanks for that!

Getting worried as I’m on day 15 have recon but not pos OPK yet… as my cycles have all been 19 days that leaves me with such an abnormally short LP :/

Appreciate your support and responses.
a bit like Siena I’m trying to focus on collecting data points ahead of dr appt, but it’s hard not to over worry about them! X

Just back to update that I’m pretty sure from the pains in my left side tonight that I’m ovulating on cd15, the earliest yet! I do think maca root has potentially helped 😊 Now just hoping I have at least 13 days until AF is due 🤞🏼 This is the boring bit 🙄

@Carlotta27 Data is good! Definitely good to go to the doctor armed with the facts. How is it going with the OPKs?

@BCxx Ah that's great news! Did you confirm ovulation? Fingers crossed for a nice long LP - or even better a BFP!

@DesertSnow thank you for asking! Really appreciate this forum for this as DH really isn’t clued up on it

so I had a load of Ewcm on day 13, no pos OPK but a darker line (not yet pos) on day 15 today. Glad that it seems like there may be a peak and signs of ovulation, but SO worried if it means ovulation will happen on day 15/16 … as the cycle is usually only 19 days. A three day LP would be a real concern. But as you say, I need to try and concentrate on collecting data and let the Dr interpret

how are you getting on ?

@Carlotta27 That's what we're here for 😊Only women can really get this stuff really, even if men try hard and are great, they're still just a bit removed from it because they're not the ones tracking and monitoring our bodies for every sign.
Try not to worry too much about the OPKs. Might be better off listening to your body's signs like EWCM. But it's good if they're getting darker. Yes, a three day LP would be a concern but it's also likely to make a doctor be reactive - so concentrate on getting all the data and knowing your stuff, that's all you can do that's within your control. You know, it might end up being an easy fix with something the doctor can help you with.
I'm ok thanks! 5w4d and still not feeling pregnant really. Kind of hoping for some symptoms but feeling guilty for wishing that when I know people are getting terrible morning sickness etc. I went ahead and booked a scan for 19th December, when I'd be 8w2d by LMP, just praying everything goes ok.

@DesertSnow thank for that positivity and hope that this data will make a diagnosis and treatment quicker!

oh I know what you mean, any signs of a pregnancy would be reassuring for you I suppose! When do you think you will let family & friends know ? I expect it’s a bit of a mental challenge now to relax as you’ll understandably be anxious, but want to remain calm for your overall health ! X

@Carlotta27 Yep, fingers crossed for you. And honestly, I never thought it would happen for me with my LP, so it shows there is always hope.

If all is well at the scan on the 19th we'll tell family over Christmas - early for my liking but he's desperate to and it doesn't feel fair to make him wait. I'll tell my mum in a couple of weeks time if all is still ok as she'd be upset if she wasn't the first to know. Won't tell any friends before 12 weeks, if we get that far. Yes, it's all a bit nerve-wracking but obviously super happy to even be in this position. The days just seem to be passing by so slowly!

@DesertSnow I know, I focus on a long LP now like that’s what I’m aiming for and not a baby 😂 I don’t do bbt but I did loads of ovulation tests and they had dropped by this morning so pretty sure it was last night. Now just to try and kill time until a week on Saturday 🙈 How’s things with you?